Re: ARLA/CLUSTER: Indicativos de Chamada - Composição

João Costa > CT1FBF ct1fbf gmail.com
Terça-Feira, 29 de Setembro de 2015 - 13:17:34 WEST


Tenho exactamente a mesma opinião que tu, Rui.

João Costa (CT1FBF)

Em 29 de setembro de 2015 09:11, Rui Oliveira <ruimail24  gmail.com>
escreveu:

> Acho que a sua primeira hipótese é basicamente a atribuição atual. Pagina
> 43 do documento:
>
> http://www.anacom.pt/streaming/decisaoamador27052009.pdf?contentId=955142&field=ATTACHED_FILE
> Ou não?
>
> 73;
> Rui Oliveira
> CR7ALW
> http://qrz.com/db/CR7ALW
>
> Às 08:42 de 29/09/2015, José Eduardo escreveu:
>
> Bom Dia  a  todos
>
> Em relação aos prefixos tenho uma opinião muito pessoal e radical se assim
> o quiserem chamar. Acho a meu ver que os prefixos em Portugal neste momento
> estão a maior das confusões e que deviam ser alterados e arrumada a casa de
> uma vez por todas com a atribuição de indicativos novos para TODOS, sem
> excepção.
>
> Vamos por partes:
>
> 1- saber se a ANACOM estaria disposta a fazer essa alteração
>
> 2- Saber com clareza de uma vez por todas e com regras bem claras e
> definidas o que NÓS Radioamadores queremos saber como informação em termos
> de prefixos, ou seja, queremos que no prefixo seja identificado: 1-só a
> zona do País;2- Zona do País e categoria do Radioamador; 3- zona do país em
> dois níveis de desagregação ?
>
>
> Então ficaria assim a atribuição dos prefixos
>
> Primeiro a base de dados dos sufixos tinha de ser a nível Nacional( não
> sei se o é ou não ), ou seja o GQN(sufixo que me foi atribuído) era único a
> nível do Continente Açores e Madeira, portanto a atribuição dos sufixos era
> única e sequencial a nível de Portugal, ficando desde já os sufixos de 1 e
> 2 letras reservados para estações especiais.
>
> Segundo, a reordenação dos sufixos far-se-ia de acordo com a antiguidade
> começando na estação mais antiga que ficaria com o sufixo AAA e por ai fora
> seguindo sequencialmente.
>
> Portugal tem atribuído os prefixos :
>
> CQ
> CR
> CS
> CT
> CU
>
> Dependendo da possibilidade de poder usar todos ou não assim condiciona o
> que podemos fazer em termos de Prefixos, mas partindo do pressuposto que
> podemos usar todos deixo aqui as 3 hipoteses referidas no ponto2.
>
>
> Então temos 1ª hipótese:
> Definido no prefixo só zona geográfica 3 zonas
> Continente, Açores, Madeira
>
> CT 1 GQN CONTINENTE CT 2 GQN AÇORES CT 3 GQN MADEIRA
>
>
>
> 2ª hipotese
> Definir no Prefixo a categoria e zona do radioamador, então teríamos os
> primeiros 2 caracteres( as letras) a definir a categoria e o 3 caracter
> (numérico) a definir a zona.
>
> dada a limitação numérica seriam definidas as 3 zonas Continente, Açores e
> Madeira
>
> CQ 1 GQN CONTINENTE A / 1 CR 1 GQN CONTINENTE B / 2 CS 1 GQN CONTINENTE C
> / 3 CT 1 GQN CONTINENTE TODOS SISTEMAS DE REPETIÇÃO(REP DE FONIA DADOS
> ETC) CU 1 GQN CONTINENTE TODOS  INDICATIVOS ESPECIAIS, HAM ESTRANGEIROS
>
> CQ 2 GQN AÇORES A / 1 CR 2 GQN AÇORES B / 2 CS 2 GQN AÇORES C / 3 CT 2 GQN
> AÇORES TODOS SISTEMAS DE REPETIÇÃO(REP DE FONIA DADOS  ETC) CU 2 GQN
> AÇORES TODOS  INDICATIVOS ESPECIAIS, HAM ESTRANGEIROS
>
> CQ 3 GQN MADEIRA A / 1 CR 3 GQN MADEIRA B / 2 CS 3 GQN MADEIRA C / 3 CT 3
> GQN MADEIRA TODOS SISTEMAS DE REPETIÇÃO(REP DE FONIA DADOS  ETC) CU 3 GQN
> MADEIRA TODOS  INDICATIVOS ESPECIAIS, HAM ESTRANGEIROS
>
>
>
> 3ª hipotese
> Defiunição só da zona do País, mas a 2 níveis
> Primeiro nível as 3 zonas Continente, Açores e Madeira
> Segundo nível subzonas dentro das 3 principais.
>
> CQ 1 GQN CONTINENTE-LISBOA CQ 2 GQN CONTINENTE-NORTE CQ 3 GQN
> CONTINENTE-BEIRAS CQ 4 GQN CONTINENTE-RIBATEJO CQ 5 GQN
> CONTINENTE-ALENTEJO CQ 6 GQN CONTINENTE-ALGARVE CR 1 GQN AÇORES-SANTAMARIA
> CR 2 GQN AÇORES-SÃO MIGUEL CR 3 GQN AÇORES-TERCEIRA CR 4 GQN
> AÇORES-GRACIOSA CR 5 GQN AÇORES-SAO JORGE CR 6 GQN AÇORES-PICO CR 7 GQN
> AÇORES-FAIAL CR 8 GQN AÇORES-FLORES CR 9 GQN AÇORES-CORVO CR 0 GQN AÇORES
> -ILHAS FORMIGAS CS 1 GQN MADEIRA-MADEIRA CS 2 GQN MADEIRA-PORTOSANTO CS 3
> GQN MADEIRA-DESERTAS CS 4 GQN MADEIRA-SELVAGENS
>
>
>
>
> Estas são as hipóteses que creio poderiam por alguma "arrumação" na nossa
> casa no que a indicativos diz respeito, mas para isso acontecer creio que
> sem dúvida alguma o que referi em cima no ponto 2 tem de ser conseguido,
> para se poder chegar junto a ANACOM e numa posição consertada conseguirmos
> alterar esta questão, se é que é isso que pretendemos e queremos.
>
> Cumprimentos
> José Eduardo
> ct2gqn
>
>
> 2015-09-29 0:22 GMT+01:00 silva antonio eduardo <ct7abf  gmail.com>:
>
>> Esta está bem metida
>> O gozo que deu ver aqui os indicativos de portugas
>> Arm
>> Um louvor à vila de Moscavide?
>>
>>
>> No dia segunda-feira, 28 de setembro de 2015, A. Gamitto <
>> ct1czt  gmail.com> escreveu:
>>
>>> Como conseguirão os titulares das estações abaixo listadas, viver no
>>> mundo da comunicação radio, havendo tantos sufixos iguais?!
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>>
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