ARLA/CLUSTER: Emissores e movel

Afonso Marques amarques efacec.com
Segunda-Feira, 13 de Setembro de 2010 - 17:23:28 WEST


De facto , vendo bem as coisas e sem puxar a brasa às nossas conveniências, o colega Luís tem toda a razão.

 

73

 

CT1RH 

 

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From: cluster-bounces  radio-amador.net [mailto:cluster-bounces  radio-amador.net] On Behalf Of CT2FZI IM58KR
Sent: segunda-feira, 13 de Setembro de 2010 17:02
To: Resumo Noticioso Electrónico ARLA
Subject: Re: ARLA/CLUSTER: Emissores e movel

 

Caríssimos,

Não querendo ser advogado do Diabo, queiram por favor explicar-me no âmbito da SEGURANÇA o que difere um equipamento de amador/cb de um telemóvel?

Depois, a notícia nos EUA é clara quando diz que o radioamador estava a usar um portatil - handheld (não o micro de um movel).

Mais ainda, o que o Juiz declarou foi à lá EUA: Um portátil de radioamador não e' um telemóvel... Fantástico. 

Se a lei americana diz que só os utilizadores de telemóveis podem ser multados, é normal que até tenha razão sobre a multa.

Mas a multa deveria existir sim, qualquer equipamento electrónico que provoque que o défice de atenção também desça, ou que a mão fica ocupada com o microfone, ou que o volume do equipamento por vezes não deixa ouvir os sons no exterior, etc.

Se me permitirem, e' uma questão de consciência, mais do que de leis. Se nos coloca em perigo, para quê a insistência? 

Eu não precisaria de uma lei que me obrigasse a usar o cinto de segurança, se é que me entendem!

:)

73 de Luís, CT2FZI

http://www.ct2fzi.net <http://www.ct2fzi.net/> 



2010/9/13 Paulo Santos <ct2ivh  hotmail.com>

Boas amigo Manuel
 
Aqui os rapazes da BT agora andam com a mania de multar por falarmos no rádio em móvel.
 
Hà umas semanas atrás fui mandado parar por uma brigada fiscal no qual fizeram a seguinte pergunta:
 
Por favor a licença de CB do seu equipamento??
Resposta imediata: Sr. Agente isto é um equipamento de amador. É lógico que ele devería imediatamente solicitar então a minha licença de amador, mas não, ficou a olhar para mim e disse: Ai é de amador então.....(ficou a pensar) ok pode ir hehehehe.
 
Como sei que eles andam sempre hà caça dos "pesados de mercadorias" vi logo que ele nem sabia o que fazer quando disse que o equipamento era de amador hahahahah. Fartei-me de rir....
 
1 abraço, e este assunto devería ser exposto há autoridade competente.

CT2IVH Paulo Santos Locator: IN50sk Iota Hunter Good Hunting........


 

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From: mojesus  pedradaciencia.com
To: cluster  radio-amador.net
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 15:31:03 +0100
Subject: ARLA/CLUSTER: Emissores e movel


Nos USA foi dada razão ao radioamadores, teremos que tambem em Portugal caminhar no mesmo sentido, falar em movel no carro não é o mesmo que falar ao telemovel.


Cabe ás associações, actuar junto da ANACOM, as restrições ao uso de transceivers nos carros, tambem em Portugal devem ser permitidas aos radioamadores. Um radio de amador não é o mesmo que um telemovel!


CT1AXZ


Manuel Jesus


www.sitesmaisuteis.pt <http://www.sitesmaisuteis.pt/> 


 


New York Judge Declares Amateur Radio Is Not a Cell Phone


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09/10/2010 In many states and localities, it is illegal to talk on a cell phone (without a hands-free device) while behind the wheel -- doing so can result in a ticket and possibly a large fine. But on May 30, 2010, when a New York ham was talking on his mobile rig, he didn't think he was doing anything wrong. Except that the officer who pulled him over and cited him with a $100 fine didn't quite see it that way.
Steve Bozak, WB2IQU, of Clifton Park, told the ARRL that when he was pulled over while driving to Troy -- about 16 miles away -- he assured the officer that he was not speaking on a cell phone, but on his handheld transceiver. But according to Bozak, the officer said "it was all the same to him." So Bozak decided to fight the ticket in court.
"Honestly, it's not the fine or the ticket, but that all the other hams who use mobile radios have to hide the fact we are mobile in Troy," he told the ARRL just days after he was cited. "I will do my best to settle this politely and correctly, for all of the ham community. So I will follow the course and have my day in court, to 'tell it to the judge.' This matter affects 38,000 hams in New York State."
Unfortunately, when Bozak had his day in traffic court, he lost his case. But he didn't give up and took his case to City Court where, on September 8, the judge dismissed the case in Bozak's favor. Bozak argued that his use "of a handheld Amateur Radio does not fit the definition of a mobile telephone, and as such, the present charge should be dismissed." The prosecutor's office did not submit a response in opposition.
Saying that New York's Vehicle and Traffic Law defines a "Mobile Telephone" as a "device used by subscribers and other users of wireless telephone service to access such service," and that a "Wireless Telephone Service" is defined as "two-way real time voice tele-communications service that is interconnected to a public switched telephone network and is provided by a commercial mobile radio service," the judge decided that Bozak's handheld transceiver did not fit that description.
"A review of 47 C.F.R.§20.3 reveals that Citizens Band Radio Service is defined under private mobile radio service not commercial mobile radio service," the decision read. "Therefore, the Court finds that the use of an Amateur Radio device does not fit the definition of a mobile telephone as defined under the Vehicle and Traffic Law" As such, the judge dismissed the case in Bozak's favor.
"While the court cited the Citizens Band Service instead of the Amateur Radio Service, the ruling very is favorable to amateurs on the precise point of law raised," said ARRL Regulatory Information Manager Dan Henderson, N1ND. "The principle of law is spot on. This is a great ruling in New York and exactly what we had thought would happen."


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