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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>De facto , vendo bem as coisas e sem puxar
a brasa às nossas conveniências, o colega Luís tem toda a razão.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net [mailto:cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>CT2FZI IM58KR<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> segunda-feira, 13 de
Setembro de 2010 17:02<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Resumo Noticioso Electrónico
ARLA<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: ARLA/CLUSTER:
Emissores e movel</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Caríssimos,<br>
<br>
Não querendo ser advogado do Diabo, queiram por favor explicar-me no âmbito da
SEGURANÇA o que difere um equipamento de amador/cb de um telemóvel?<br>
<br>
Depois, a notícia nos EUA é clara quando diz que o radioamador estava a usar um
portatil - handheld (não o micro de um movel).<br>
<br>
Mais ainda, o que o Juiz declarou foi à lá EUA: Um portátil de radioamador não
e' um telemóvel... Fantástico. <br>
<br>
Se a lei americana diz que só os utilizadores de telemóveis podem ser multados,
é normal que até tenha razão sobre a multa.<br>
<br>
Mas a multa deveria existir sim, qualquer equipamento electrónico que provoque
que o défice de atenção também desça, ou que a mão fica ocupada com o
microfone, ou que o volume do equipamento por vezes não deixa ouvir os sons no
exterior, etc.<br>
<br>
Se me permitirem, e' uma questão de consciência, mais do que de leis. Se nos
coloca em perigo, para quê a insistência? <br>
<br>
Eu não precisaria de uma lei que me obrigasse a usar o cinto de segurança, se é
que me entendem!<br clear=all>
<br>
:)<br>
<br>
73 de Luís, CT2FZI<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.ct2fzi.net/" target="_blank">http://www.ct2fzi.net</a><br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>2010/9/13 Paulo Santos <<a href="mailto:ct2ivh@hotmail.com">ct2ivh@hotmail.com</a>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Boas amigo Manuel<br>
<br>
Aqui os rapazes da BT agora andam com a mania de multar por falarmos no rádio
em móvel.<br>
<br>
Hà umas semanas atrás fui mandado parar por uma brigada fiscal no qual fizeram
a seguinte pergunta:<br>
<br>
Por favor a licença de CB do seu equipamento??<br>
Resposta imediata: Sr. Agente isto é um equipamento de amador. É lógico que ele
devería imediatamente solicitar então a minha licença de amador, mas não, ficou
a olhar para mim e disse: Ai é de amador então.....(ficou a pensar) ok pode ir
hehehehe.<br>
<br>
Como sei que eles andam sempre hà caça dos "pesados de mercadorias"
vi logo que ele nem sabia o que fazer quando disse que o equipamento era de
amador hahahahah. Fartei-me de rir....<br>
<br>
1 abraço, e este assunto devería ser exposto há autoridade competente.<br>
<br>
CT2IVH Paulo Santos Locator: IN50sk Iota Hunter Good Hunting........<br>
<br>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>From: <a
href="mailto:mojesus@pedradaciencia.com" target="_blank">mojesus@pedradaciencia.com</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:cluster@radio-amador.net" target="_blank">cluster@radio-amador.net</a><br>
Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 15:31:03 +0100<br>
Subject: ARLA/CLUSTER: Emissores e movel<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<h2><b><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Nos USA foi dada razão ao radioamadores, teremos
que tambem em Portugal caminhar no mesmo sentido, falar em movel no carro não é
o mesmo que falar ao telemovel.</span></font><o:p></o:p></b></h2>
<h2><b><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Cabe ás associações, actuar junto da ANACOM, as
restrições ao uso de transceivers nos carros, tambem em Portugal devem ser
permitidas aos radioamadores. Um radio de amador não é o mesmo que um
telemovel!</span></font><o:p></o:p></b></h2>
<h2><b><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:blue'>CT1AXZ</span></font><o:p></o:p></b></h2>
<h2><b><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Manuel Jesus</span></font><o:p></o:p></b></h2>
<h2><b><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:blue'><a href="http://www.sitesmaisuteis.pt/"
target="_blank">www.sitesmaisuteis.pt</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></b></h2>
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<h2><b><font size=5 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:18.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:blue'>New York Judge Declares Amateur Radio Is Not a
Cell Phone</span></font><o:p></o:p></b></h2>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-weight:bold'>TAGS:</span></font></b><font
color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:blue'> </span></font><a
href="http://www.arrl.org/news/search/Tag.name:amateur%20radio" target="_blank"
title="View all News tagged: amateur radio"><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'>amateur radio</span></font></a><font color=blue
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:blue'>, </span></font><a
href="http://www.arrl.org/news/search/Tag.name:amateur%20radio%20service"
target="_blank" title="View all News tagged: amateur radio service"><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>amateur radio service</span></font></a><font
color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:blue'>, </span></font><a
href="http://www.arrl.org/news/search/Tag.name:arrl" target="_blank"
title="View all News tagged: arrl"><font face=Arial><span style='font-family:
Arial'>arrl</span></font></a><font color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:blue'>, </span></font><a
href="http://www.arrl.org/news/search/Tag.name:ARRL%20Regulatory%20Information"
target="_blank" title="View all News tagged: ARRL Regulatory Information"><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>ARRL Regulatory Information</span></font></a><font
color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:blue'>, </span></font><a
href="http://www.arrl.org/news/search/Tag.name:cell%20phone" target="_blank"
title="View all News tagged: cell phone"><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'>cell phone</span></font></a><font color=blue
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:blue'>, </span></font><a
href="http://www.arrl.org/news/search/Tag.name:citizens%20band" target="_blank"
title="View all News tagged: citizens band"><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'>citizens band</span></font></a><font color=blue
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:blue'>, </span></font><a
href="http://www.arrl.org/news/search/Tag.name:mobile%20radio" target="_blank"
title="View all News tagged: mobile radio"><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'>mobile radio</span></font></a><font color=blue
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:blue'>, </span></font><a
href="http://www.arrl.org/news/search/Tag.name:mobile%20rig" target="_blank"
title="View all News tagged: mobile rig"><font face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial'>mobile rig</span></font></a><font color=blue
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:blue'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>09/10/2010 In many states and localities,
it is illegal to talk on a cell phone (without a hands-free device) while
behind the wheel -- doing so can result in a ticket and possibly a large fine.
But on May 30, 2010, when a New York ham was talking on his mobile rig, he
didn’t think he was doing anything wrong. Except that the officer who
pulled him over and cited him with a $100 fine didn’t quite see it that
way.</span></font><br>
<font color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Steve
Bozak, WB2IQU, of Clifton Park, told the ARRL that when he was pulled over
while driving to Troy -- about 16 miles away -- he assured the officer that he
was not speaking on a cell phone, but on his handheld transceiver. But
according to Bozak, the officer said “it was all the same to him.”
So Bozak decided to fight the ticket in court.</span></font><br>
<font color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:blue'>“Honestly,
it’s not the fine or the ticket, but that all the other hams who use
mobile radios have to hide the fact we are mobile in Troy,” he told the
ARRL just days after he was cited. “I will do my best to settle this
politely and correctly, for all of the ham community. So I will follow the
course and have my day in court, to ‘tell it to the judge.’ This
matter affects 38,000 hams in New York State.”</span></font><br>
<font color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Unfortunately,
when Bozak had his day in traffic court, he lost his case. But he didn’t
give up and took his case to City Court where, on September 8, the judge
dismissed the case in Bozak’s favor. Bozak argued that his use “of
a handheld Amateur Radio does not fit the definition of a mobile telephone, and
as such, the present charge should be dismissed.” The prosecutor’s
office did not submit a response in opposition.</span></font><br>
<font color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Saying
that New York’s Vehicle and Traffic Law defines a “Mobile
Telephone” as a “device used by subscribers and other users of
wireless telephone service to access such service,” and that a
“Wireless Telephone Service” is defined as “two-way real time
voice tele-communications service that is interconnected to a public switched
telephone network and is provided by a commercial mobile radio service,”
the judge decided that Bozak’s handheld transceiver did not fit that
description.</span></font><br>
<font color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:blue'>“A
review of 47 C.F.R.§20.3 reveals that Citizens Band Radio Service is defined
under private mobile radio service not commercial mobile radio service,”
the decision read. “Therefore, the Court finds that the use of an Amateur
Radio device does not fit the definition of a mobile telephone as defined under
the Vehicle and Traffic Law” As such, the judge dismissed the case in
Bozak’s favor.</span></font><br>
<font color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:blue'>“While
the court cited the Citizens Band Service instead of the Amateur Radio Service,
the ruling very is favorable to amateurs on the precise point of law
raised,” said ARRL Regulatory Information Manager Dan Henderson, N1ND.
“The principle of law is spot on. This is a great ruling in New York and exactly
what we had thought would happen.”</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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