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    <p>Prezados colegas <br>
    </p>
    <p>os miúdos querem lá saber de rádios <br>
    </p>
    <p>tem a Internet e é esta a causa <br>
    </p>
    <p>porquê perder tempo em se pode falar <br>
    </p>
    <p>para outro lado do mundo num click ?</p>
    <p>estamos a fabricar Tecnológicos dependes <br>
    </p>
    <p>nas escolas,em nossas casas etc....</p>
    <p>73 ct2grf<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Às 22:49 de 09-10-2017, Luís Garcia
      Filipe escreveu:<br>
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cite="mid:CAOcrdxY4afmibarrQ1QF=hM56JiJVUn7Mahng3s1qhU5cq1j6g@mail.gmail.com">
      <div dir="auto">São,  são os dois  anos de escuta que  estragam 
        tudo.  Mas o mal já está  feito,  o rádioamadorismo em CT 
        ganhou má  fama,  é  elitista. 
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        <div dir="auto">E sim  são os dois  anos. </div>
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        <div dir="auto">Sem dúvida que são os dois  anos. </div>
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        <div dir="auto">Dois  anos. </div>
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        <div dir="auto">365*2</div>
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        <div dir="auto">24 meses </div>
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        <div dir="auto">Não sei quantas  semanas </div>
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        <div dir="auto">Mas  anda por ai alguma  juventude produtiva, 
          não elitista.  Alguns  lêem-se poraqui e contribuem  para que
          o efeito do cabelo  grisalho não seja  tão grave  e vão 
          podando  as hastes aos  gajos que querem  ser donos  da 
          frequência,  da  razão,  do  nepotismo. </div>
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        <div dir="auto">Sim são os dois  anos </div>
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        <div dir="auto"><br>
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        <div dir="auto">E um  povo que  reelege  corruptos. </div>
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        <div dir="auto">Que  não se  governa  nem  deixa  governar. </div>
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        <div dir="auto">A lei dos  dois  anos  são  como a cara  de quem
          a fez </div>
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        <div dir="auto">"... Poucos  mas  bons... "</div>
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        <div dir="auto">Amigos,  vão apanhar pokemons </div>
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        <div dir="auto">Muitos,  e todos  bons. E os que não são  bons
          ensina-se,  motiva-se, mas  nunca  se exclui. </div>
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        <div dir="auto">Sim,  </div>
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        <div dir="auto">São os dois  anos </div>
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        <div dir="auto">Ou a culpa é  mesmo da dona Maria que comprou o 
          detergente  errado </div>
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        <div dir="auto">Desculpem lá. Hoje foi assim </div>
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        <div dir="auto">73 CT7AEL </div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">Em 09/10/2017 10:14 da tarde,
          "Pedro-papfc1" &lt;<a href="mailto:papfc1@gmail.com"
            moz-do-not-send="true">papfc1@gmail.com</a>&gt; escreveu:<br
            type="attribution">
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                    style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#993366">Boa
                    noite<br>
                    <br>
                    Com todo o respeito pelos colegas que comentaram a
                    notícia, parece-lhes então que está tudo bem ? <br>
                    As hordas de jovens a virem para o hobby são, apenas
                    um problema dos 2 anos sem falar ? </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                    style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#993366"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                    style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#993366">A
                    discussão deste assunto não nos deveria estar a
                    preocupar a todos ?</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                    style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#993366">A
                    inovação não é necessária para “recrutar” jovens ?<br>
                    <br>
                    Para que conste, no Reino Unido, ainda há bem pouco
                    tempo vi o anuncio de uma palestra: “Radioamador,
                    espécie em vias de extinção…”</span></p>
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                    style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#993366"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                    style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#993366">73</span></p>
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                    style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#993366"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                    style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#993366">Pedro,
                    CT1DBS</span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                          style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> <a
                          href="mailto:cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">cluster-bounces@radio-amador.<wbr>net</a>
                        [mailto:<a
                          href="mailto:cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">cluster-bounces@radio-<wbr>amador.net</a>]
                        <b>On Behalf Of </b>José Machado<br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 9, 2017 5:44 PM<br>
                        <b>To:</b> 'Resumo Noticioso ARLA/CLUSTER' &lt;<a
                          href="mailto:cluster@radio-amador.net"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">cluster@radio-amador.net</a>&gt;<br>
                        <b>Subject:</b> RE: ARLA/CLUSTER: Os
                        radioamadores devem acompanhar os tempos
                        modernos como o sempre fizeram no passado. As
                        comunicações digitais podem ser a resposta</span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                    style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Como
                    dizia o João Ramos, no mês passado na RTP, até ”</span><span
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333;background:white">poderiam
                    ser licenciados em produção de agriões, ou na
                    difícil problemática dos mosquitos do Alasca.” </span><span
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d;background:white">LOL</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d;background:white">Machado-CT1BAT</span><span
style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                      style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif">De:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif"> <a
                      href="mailto:cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">cluster-bounces@radio-amador.<wbr>net</a>
                    [<a href="mailto:cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:cluster-bounces@radio-<wbr>amador.net</a>]
                    <b>Em nome de </b>Jorge Santos<br>
                    <b>Enviada:</b> 9 de outubro de 2017 17:30<br>
                    <b>Para:</b> Resumo Noticioso ARLA/CLUSTER<br>
                    <b>Assunto:</b> Re: ARLA/CLUSTER: Os radioamadores
                    devem acompanhar os tempos modernos como o sempre
                    fizeram no passado. As comunicações digitais podem
                    ser a resposta</span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Boa
                      tarde</p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Desde
                    que vi uma licenciatura de "Tratamento de campos de
                    Golfe" promovida por uma universidade do Sul, que já
                    acredito em tudo</p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">On 9 October 2017 at 16:38,
                        José Machado &lt;<a
                          href="mailto:ct1bat@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">ct1bat@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                        wrote:</p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                              style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;background:aqua">“A
                              IARU já está preocupada com a falta de
                              interesse no rádio amador pelas gerações
                              mais novas e se ele para de crescer, então
                              a sua sobrevivência é duvidosa. As
                              gerações mais jovens são muito
                              alfabetizadas em informática e seus
                              interesses são muito diferentes dos
                              antigos do passado e a RAE deve refletir.</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                              style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;background:aqua">O
                              serviço de radioamador precisa de um
                              renascimento, o primeiro passo é
                              afastar-se dessa atitude de passatempo e
                              perceber que é uma ciência de radio
                              amadora com a qual experimentar, pesquisar
                              e ser pioneira. Em segundo lugar, o
                              serviço de radioamador deve ampliar seu
                              campo e incluir a radioastronomia para
                              futuras comunicações espaciais, que
                              atualmente podem cobrir uma distância de
                              comunicação de mais de 21 bilhões de
                              quilômetros da Terra.</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                              style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;background:aqua">Um
                              campo de rádio mais amplo, reforçado pela
                              mais recente tecnologia de rádio, será
                              mais excitante, atraente e atrairá muito
                              mais as novas gerações com suas mentes
                              abertas e inquisitivas.</span><span
                              style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">
                              “</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                              style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                              style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Oh
                              diabo! Não querem lá ver que os
                              sul-africanos querem transformar o
                              “passatempo” acessível a todos numa coisa
                              só acessível a cientistas?!? Querem ver
                              que, qualquer dia, para se ter o CAN é
                              preciso ter licenciatura?!? Bem uma escola
                              de grau superior, ali para os lados de
                              Aveiro, já há uma “coisa qualquer”
                              reconhecida pelo ministério da educação?!?
                              Só ainda não serve para aceder, direto, à
                              cat.1 mas... pode ser uma questão de
                              tempo...</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                              style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                              style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Quem
                              gosta disto tem de tomar os destinos do
                              radioamadorismo nas mãos. </span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                              style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Já
                              ouvi a Anacom dizer que “o radioamadorismo
                              será o que os amadores quiserem” e
                              acrescentou: ENTENDAM-SE.</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                              style="font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Entendamo-nos.</span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">73
                                from</span></i></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                                style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif">De:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif"> <a
href="mailto:cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net" target="_blank"
                                moz-do-not-send="true">cluster-bounces@radio-amador.<wbr>net</a>
                              [mailto:<a
                                href="mailto:cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">cluster-bounces@radio-<wbr>amador.net</a>]
                              <b>Em nome de </b>João Costa &gt; CT1FBF<br>
                              <b>Enviada:</b> 9 de outubro de 2017 11:50<br>
                              <b>Para:</b> Cluster-ARLA<br>
                              <b>Assunto:</b> ARLA/CLUSTER: Os
                              radioamadores devem acompanhar os tempos
                              modernos como o sempre fizeram no passado.
                              As comunicações digitais podem ser a
                              resposta</span></p>
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                            <h1><span
style="font-size:16.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Radio
                                amateurs should keep up with modern
                                times</span></h1>
                            <p><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Radio
                                amateurs made their mark in history when
                                they discovered worldwide HF
                                communications while using
                                radiotelegraphy, which is the correct
                                term for CW.</span></p>
                            <p><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Ten
                                years later they discovered VHF
                                propagation beyond the line-of-sight to
                                the surprise of the radio experts.</span></p>
                            <p><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Our
                                early radio amateurs were true
                                experimenters, researchers and pioneers
                                and they advanced amateur radio
                                technology in their time. Today many of
                                our modern breed of radio amateurs are
                                no longer interested in experimenting
                                but only having fun with a radio hobby.</span></p>
                            <p><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Many
                                shortwave broadcasting stations have
                                closed and commercial stations relocated
                                to the satellite frequencies on SHF
                                where DSTV is well established. This
                                includes the maritime mobile service
                                that used many HF bands and
                                radiotelegraphy on their sea lanes,
                                until they also moved to satellite and
                                now communicates via voice and digital.
                                It is the VHF, UHF and SHF spectrum that
                                is now in great demand by the commercial
                                radio world.</span></p>
                            <p><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">All
                                the above does not mean that radio
                                amateurs should abandon HF or CW, but
                                they should rather try and keep up with
                                radio developments and increase their
                                knowledge of the VHF spectrum and the
                                frequencies above, where the future of
                                radio lies including the digital
                                communications.</span></p>
                            <p><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:aqua">The
                                IARU is already concerned about the lack
                                of interest in amateur radio by the
                                younger generations and if it stops
                                growing then its survival is doubtful.
                                The younger generations are very
                                computer literate and their interests
                                are a lot different than the old-timers
                                of yesteryear and the RAE should reflect
                                it.</span></p>
                            <p><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:aqua">Amateur
                                radio service needs a Renaissance, the
                                first step is to break away from this
                                hobby attitude and to realize that it is
                                an amateur radio science with which to
                                experiment, research and pioneer.
                                Secondly, the amateur radio service
                                should broaden its field and include
                                radio astronomy for future space
                                communications, which currently can
                                cover a communication distance of more
                                than 21 billion kilometres from Earth.</span></p>
                            <p><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black;background:aqua">A
                                wider radio field enhanced by the latest
                                radio technology will be more exciting,
                                attractive and have a far greater appeal
                                to the new generations with their open
                                and inquiring minds.</span><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">
                                They will become fully exposed to the
                                new era of space travel within the next
                                decade and this could extend the
                                lifespan of amateur radio service for
                                another 100 years.</span></p>
                            <p><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><a
href="http://www.sarl.org.za/Default.asp" target="_blank"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                                    style="color:#003366">The South
                                    African Radio League</span></a></span></p>
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