<div dir="auto"><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Mensagem encaminhada ----------<br>De: &quot;Rodrigo&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:ct1bxt@gmail.com">ct1bxt@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>Data: 22/05/2017 18:07<br>Assunto: Re: [CT-Com. &amp; Tec.] CQWW SSB 2016-Estações desqualificadas<br>Para:  &lt;<a href="mailto:ct-comunicacoes-e-tecnologias@googlegroups.com">ct-comunicacoes-e-tecnologias@googlegroups.com</a>&gt;<br>Cc: <br><br type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Boas,</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>a listagem final de desqualificações de SSB e CW:</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p><a class="m_-2132931584872118193moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://cqww.com/blog/" target="_blank">http://cqww.com/blog/</a></p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>73</p>
    <p>Rodrigo</p>
    <p>ct1bxt</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div class="m_-2132931584872118193moz-cite-prefix">Às 22:22 de 03-05-2017, Rodrigo
      escreveu:<br>
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      <p>Os rapazes do CQWW encontraram o caminho das pedras com as
        desclassificações por self spot ou bud spot.</p>
      <p>Foi o caso do SSB e se calhar no de CW é o mesmo.</p>
      <p>Em relação ao de SSB o pessoal mencionou que não estavam lá
        americanos, mas estão sim, embora não nos estados unidos.</p>
      <p><br>
      </p>
      <p>Rodrigo<br>
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      <div class="m_-2132931584872118193moz-cite-prefix">Às 18:07 de 03-05-2017, Antonio
        Matias escreveu:<br>
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        <div dir="auto">Boas.
          <div dir="auto">No cw também há uma quantidade de
            desqualificados.</div>
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          <div dir="auto"><a href="https://dxnews.com/dq-cqwwdxcwcontest-2016/" target="_blank">https://dxnews.com/dq-<wbr>cqwwdxcwcontest-2016/</a><br>
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          <div dir="auto">73 </div>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">Em 30/04/2017 02:26, &quot;Rodrigo&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:ct1bxt@gmail.com" target="_blank">ct1bxt@gmail.com</a>&gt;
            escreveu:<br type="attribution">
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                <p>Boas,</p>
                <p><br>
                </p>
                <p>Lista oficial de desqualificados e razões para tal:</p>
                <p><a class="m_-2132931584872118193m_3762268079204917655moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://cqww.com/blog/2016-ssb-disqualification-list/" target="_blank">http://cqww.com/blog/2016-ssb-<wbr>disqualification-list/</a><br>
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                73<br>
                Rodrigo<br>
                ct1bxt
                <p><br>
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                <br>
                <div class="m_-2132931584872118193m_3762268079204917655moz-cite-prefix">Às
                  14:22 de 18-04-2017, Rodrigo escreveu:<br>
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                  <p>Boas,</p>
                  <p><br>
                  </p>
                  <p>acho que isso da quebra das regras está no sangue
                    das pessoas que o fazem. Nem que seja para disputar
                    uma caixa de fósforos !!</p>
                  <p>Isto é como a bola, cada um dá a importância que
                    acha que o assunto merece.</p>
                  <p>Volto a lembrar que isto é tão somente um hobby que
                    todos gostamos muito, mas não passa disso!! &quot;não dá
                    pão nem promoção&quot; !!</p>
                  <p>Quando faço os concursos em QRP são para o ser
                    mesmo assim, chamar e chamar, repetir o indicativo
                    muito vezes etc etc.</p>
                  <p>Fazer os contactos com mais potencia e depois dizer
                    que se fez QRP que gozo dá isso ? qualquer um o faz
                    e a coisa assim perde a piada.</p>
                  <p>Acho que a solução nos concursos é mesmo a de
                    acabar com as classes que não sejam ASSISTED, como
                    já mencionei em emilios anteriores.</p>
                  <p>Passem bem e façam muitos contactos hoje, já que é
                    nosso dia.</p>
                  <p><br>
                  </p>
                  <p>73</p>
                  <p>Rodrigo</p>
                  <p>ct1bxt</p>
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                  <div class="m_-2132931584872118193m_3762268079204917655moz-cite-prefix">Às
                    13:00 de 18-04-2017, Filipe Lopes escreveu:<br>
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                      <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394">So
                        para esclarecer que nunca tive nenhum cartão nem
                        amarelo nem vermelho em nenhum concurso!</div>
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                                    <div dir="ltr"><font style="color:rgb(0,0,0)" face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="2">73&#39;s Filipe Lopes </font>
                                      <div><font style="color:rgb(0,0,0)" face="tahoma, sans-serif" size="2">CT1ILT - CR6K</font>
                                        <div><font size="2"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="tahoma,
                                                sans-serif">F4VPX - TM3M</font></span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"> </span></font></div>
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                        <br>
                        <div class="gmail_quote">No dia 18 de abril de
                          2017 às 12:50, Antonio Matias <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ct1ffu@gmail.com" target="_blank">ct1ffu@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                          escreveu:<br>
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                            <div dir="ltr">Ó Filipe
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>a mim é difícil desclassificarem-me.</div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>Por uma ou outra aselhice, talvez,
                                mas por batota, não...</div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>É preciso recordar, que estas
                                estações desclassificadas, presumo que a
                                tua também, já tinham levado cartões
                                amarelos anteriormente</div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>e estavam sob vigilância apertada.
                                Foram reincidentes apesar dos avisos
                                anteriores.</div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>Nenhuma pôde recorrer do argumento &quot;<u>
                                  foi acto-isolado</u> &quot;  </div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>No teu caso, nem sei o que se passou,
                                mas há lá estações, balcânicas,
                                sul-americanas  e chinesas, que é por
                                demais óbvio o uso de</div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div> spot-friends.</div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>Já sei que se quiseres, podes por
                                spots a mim freneticamente e assim vais
                                fazer com que seja desclassificado, mas
                                lembro que </div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>não é possível adivinhares as
                                mudanças de banda e<u> spotar antes de
                                  eu começar a chamar,</u> nem
                                consegues, como acontece muito, spotar </div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>uma estação quando a propagação ainda
                                não abriu, tipo <u>um americano por um
                                  spot de uma estação Europeia em 40m
                                  quando ainda é dia nos</u></div>
                              <div><u><br>
                                </u></div>
                              <div><u> EUA.</u></div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>É fácil a defesa dos honestos.</div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
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                              </div>
                              <div>73</div>
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                                  <div class="gmail_quote">No dia 18 de
                                    abril de 2017 às 11:29, <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:pedro.ct1elp@gmail.com" target="_blank">pedro.ct1elp@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                    escreveu:<br>
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                                      <div dir="ltr">Olá a todos !
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>Apesar de ultimamente não
                                          andar tão activo, durante anos
                                          fui um regular participante
                                          nos concursos internacionais e
                                          sempre desconfiei de certos
                                          resultados, nomeadamente na
                                          minha categoria (Low power)
                                          onde não tenho dúvidas que
                                          muitos pisam o risco e avançam
                                          com algumas centenas de Watt e
                                          isso é ainda mais difícil de
                                          detectar.</div>
                                        <div>Quanto a outros esquemas
                                          fraudulentos, como são os que
                                          se apresentam, a explicação da
                                          sua detecção está dada no link
                                          já apresentado aqui (<a href="http://cqww.com/blog/cqww-2016-ssb-self-spotting-and-entrant-audio-recordings/" target="_blank">http://cqww.com/blog/cqww-201<wbr>6-ssb-self-spotting-and-entran<wbr>t-audio-recordings/</a>)
                                          e também creio noutros artigos
                                          sobre o assunto espalhados na
                                          internet.</div>
                                        <div>A meu ver, os principais
                                          visados estarão garantidamente
                                          já a pensar em maneiras de
                                          contornar esta forma de
                                          detecção, porque é próprio de
                                          quem não sabe &quot;jogar&quot; sem
                                          fazer batota, nem que seja sob
                                          o estúpido argumento de que &quot;
                                          se há outros que fazem batota
                                          então também posso fazer, até
                                          porque seria um lorpa se me
                                          deixasse ficar para trás ! &quot;.</div>
                                        <div>Posto isto e aceitando de
                                          uma vez por todas que
                                          infelizmente os concursos têm
                                          se tornado cada vez mais numa
                                          feira de vaidades do que uma
                                          salutar competição para aguçar
                                          a perícia de operação e
                                          melhorar as condições da
                                          estação, como era
                                          originalmente. Assim como
                                          acontece na vida quotidiana
                                          onde há um crescente
                                          individualismo e ambição
                                          desmedida, também nos
                                          concursos de radio cada vez
                                          mais se quer &quot;ganhar&quot; a todo
                                          os custo sem a olhar a meios
                                          para atingir os fins.</div>
                                        <div>Proponho medidas mais
                                          assertivas e que castiguem os
                                          prevaricadores onde realmente
                                          mais se sentem, não só com a
                                          exposição pública para se
                                          envergonharem mas com a
                                          suspensão da sua participação
                                          no concurso do ano seguinte.</div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>73 de CT1ELP</div>
                                        <div>Pedro Pedroso  </div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div><span><br>
                                            <br>
                                            terça-feira, 18 de Abril de
                                            2017 às 10:54:37 UTC+1, Joel
                                            Lobão escreveu:</span>
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                                              <div dir="auto">Concordo
                                                plenamente Costa,
                                                <div dir="auto"><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div dir="auto">Assim
                                                  podia ser que
                                                  ganhassem vergonha na
                                                  cara. </div>
                                                <div dir="auto"><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div dir="auto">Porque
                                                  se mostrarem o log e
                                                  mostrarem os spots dos
                                                  amigos sempre que há
                                                  uma mudança de banda
                                                  ou sempre que o rate
                                                  baixa... </div>
                                                <div dir="auto"><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div dir="auto">É isso e
                                                  entrarem como
                                                  non-assited e fazerem
                                                  os multiplicadores
                                                  logo que aparecem no
                                                  cluster. </div>
                                                <div dir="auto"><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div dir="auto">Mas lá
                                                  está, sem provas podem
                                                  sempre alegar que
                                                  estão inocentes e que
                                                  foi uma má avaliação
                                                  do CC.</div>
                                                <div dir="auto"><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div dir="auto">73 de
                                                  CT1HXB - Joel Lobão</div>
                                              </div>
                                            </span>
                                            <div><br>
                                              <div class="gmail_quote"><span>Em
                                                  18/04/2017 10:47,
                                                  &quot;Francisco Costa&quot; &lt;<a rel="nofollow">ct1...@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                                                  escreveu:<br type="attribution">
                                                </span>
                                                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>
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                                                      <div>Discordo,
                                                        Matias.</div>
                                                      <div>Primeiro
                                                        porque,
                                                        provavelmente,
                                                        os
                                                        prevaricadores
                                                        nao tem
                                                        vergonha. De
                                                        contrario nao
                                                        fariam o que
                                                        fazem.</div>
                                                      <div>Segundo
                                                        porque, talvez
                                                        com maior
                                                        exposicao
                                                        publica,
                                                        finalmente parem
                                                        de fazer o que
                                                        fazem...</div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>73 FCosta,
                                                        CT1EAT</div>
                                                    </div>
                                                  </span>
                                                  <div><br>
                                                    <div class="gmail_quote"><span>No
                                                        dia 18 de abril
                                                        de 2017 às
                                                        10:43, Antonio
                                                        Matias <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a rel="nofollow">ct1...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> escreveu:<br>
                                                      </span>
                                                      <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">Joel
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>acho não
                                                          é preciso
                                                          envergonhar
                                                          mais os
                                                          prevaricadores.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>chega...</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                        </span>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote"><span>No
                                                          dia 18 de
                                                          abril de 2017
                                                          às 10:36, Joel
                                                          Lobão <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a rel="nofollow">joel....@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> escreveu:<br>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>
                                                          <div dir="auto">Só
                                                          acho que
                                                          deviam
                                                          publicar as
                                                          provas. Assim
                                                          fica sempre a
                                                          dúvida. <span>
                                                          <div dir="auto"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div dir="auto">73
                                                          de CT1HXB -
                                                          Joel Lobão<br>
                                                          <div dir="auto"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div dir="auto"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote"><span>Em
                                                          18/04/2017
                                                          09:31,
                                                          &quot;Francisco
                                                          Costa&quot; &lt;<a rel="nofollow">ct1...@gmail.com</a>&gt; escreveu:<br type="attribution">
                                                          </span>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><br>
                                                          <div>Realmente...
                                                          do campeao do
                                                          self spoting
                                                          em CT nao se
                                                          esperava outra
                                                          coisa.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>73
                                                          FCosta, CT1EAT</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote"><span>No
                                                          dia 18 de
                                                          abril de 2017
                                                          às 00:01, João
                                                          Cunha <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a rel="nofollow">ct2...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> escreveu:<br>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div dir="auto">Só
                                                          me apetece
                                                          rir....hehehehe
                                                          <div dir="auto"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote"><span>Em
                                                          17/04/2017
                                                          21:36,
                                                          &quot;Antonio
                                                          Matias&quot; &lt;<a rel="nofollow">ct1...@gmail.com</a>&gt; escreveu:<br type="attribution">
                                                          </span>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>
                                                          <div dir="auto">Justificação
                                                          oficial da
                                                          CQWW.
                                                          <div dir="auto"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div dir="auto"><a href="http://cqww.com/blog/cqww-2016-ssb-self-spotting-and-entrant-audio-recordings/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://cqww.com/blog/cqww-2016<wbr>-ssb-self-spotting-and-entrant<wbr>-audio-recordings/</a><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div dir="auto"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div dir="auto">73 </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote"><span>Em
                                                          04/04/2017
                                                          19:12, &quot;Carlos
                                                          Fonseca&quot; &lt;<a rel="nofollow">ct1gfq...@gmail.com</a>&gt; escreveu:<br type="attribution">
                                                          </span>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>
                                                          <div>Num dos
                                                          últimos CTEST
                                                          de phonia um
                                                          radioamador de
                                                          CTLand passou
                                                          todo o
                                                          concurso a
                                                          enviar spots
                                                          seus, através
                                                          de um
                                                          indicativo
                                                          inativo em
                                                          Portugal.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Em casa
                                                          tenho lá um
                                                          print-screen
                                                          como prova...</div>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote"><span>
                                                          <div>Rodrigo
                                                          &lt;<a rel="nofollow">ct1...@gmail.com</a>&gt; escreveu em ter,
                                                          4/04/2017 às
                                                          16:24 :<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>
                                                          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
                                                          <p>Boas,</p>
                                                          <p><br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p>Isso é
                                                          fácil de
                                                          resolver.</p>
                                                          <p>Todas as
                                                          estações
                                                          passam a
                                                          trabalhar
                                                          assisted, se
                                                          assim o
                                                          quiserem,
                                                          acabam-se de
                                                          vez por todas
                                                          com as
                                                          questões do
                                                          clister.</p>
                                                          <p> Existem
                                                          muitos
                                                          concursos,
                                                          especialmente
                                                          de RTTY ,que
                                                          já o fazem<br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p>Em relação
                                                          à potencia,
                                                          estou como diz
                                                          o Matias: 3kw
                                                          é 3db  a mais,
                                                          é meia unidade
                                                          s-meter !!.</p>
                                                          <p>Mesmo
                                                          passando de
                                                          1,5 kw para 5
                                                          kw  a coisa
                                                          não vai não
                                                          vai muito
                                                          adiante, não
                                                          chega a uma
                                                          unidade S.</p>
                                                          <p>Não me
                                                          parece ser por
                                                          esse lado que
                                                          se ganham
                                                          concursos. Se
                                                          me disserem
                                                          que existem
                                                          estações que
                                                          operam com
                                                          dois
                                                          operadores por
                                                          banda, um em
                                                          cima outro na
                                                          parte de baixo
                                                          da banda, ai
                                                          já me convenço
                                                          mais.</p>
                                                          <p>Têm sempre
                                                          um e só um
                                                          sinal no ar
                                                          nessa banda
                                                          porque o
                                                          programa não
                                                          deixa sair o
                                                          outro, mas !!!</p>
                                                          <p>A CR3A,
                                                          onde já tive o
                                                          prazer de
                                                          operar, não
                                                          tem os meios,
                                                          nem de perto
                                                          nem de longe,
                                                          que vejo nas
                                                          big-guns
                                                          Americanas ou
                                                          Europeias e no
                                                          entanto fica
                                                          sempre melhor
                                                          classificado
                                                          que eles !!</p>
                                                          <p>Eu continuo
                                                          com a minha
                                                          máxima, que
                                                          gozo pessoal
                                                          dá saber que
                                                          se ganho o
                                                          concurso e se
                                                          fez batota com
                                                          mais potencia,
                                                          mais largura
                                                          de banda etc ?
                                                          a mim nenhum
                                                          !!<br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p><br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p>73</p>
                                                          <p>Rodrigo</p>
                                                          <p>ct1bxt</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><span>
                                                          <p><br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p><br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>Às 15:07
                                                          de 04-04-2017,
                                                          Filipe Lopes
                                                          escreveu:<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <blockquote type="cite"><span>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(11,83,148)">​Cuidado
                                                          nos proximos
                                                          concursos do
                                                          CQ WW, pode
                                                          ser que hajam
                                                          estações que
                                                          irao apenas
                                                          spotar o
                                                          maximo
                                                          possivel para
                                                          desclassificar
                                                          &quot;os
                                                          amigos&quot;.... eu
                                                          ja estou a
                                                          fazer a minha
                                                          black list
                                                          para os
                                                          proximos CQ
                                                          WW! ​</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <div><span><br clear="all">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><font style="color:rgb(0,0,0)" face="tahoma,
                                                          sans-serif" size="2"><br>
                                                          </font></div>
                                                          <div><font style="color:rgb(0,0,0)" face="tahoma,
                                                          sans-serif" size="2">73&#39;s Filipe
                                                          Lopes </font>
                                                          <div><font style="color:rgb(0,0,0)" face="tahoma,
                                                          sans-serif" size="2">CT1ILT
                                                          - CR6K</font>
                                                          <div><font size="2"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">F4VPX - TM3M</font></span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"> </span></font></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote"><span>No
                                                          dia 4 de abril
                                                          de 2017 às
                                                          16:04, Gomes <span>&lt;<a rel="nofollow">ct1...@sapo.pt</a>&gt;</span> escreveu:<br>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><span>
                                                          <p>Boas<br>
                                                          A potencia é
                                                          um limite
                                                          imposto pelas
                                                          leis de cada
                                                          pais. O
                                                          auto-spoting é
                                                          mais
                                                          complicado. A
                                                          largura de
                                                          banda é
                                                          facilmente
                                                          medida.<br>
                                                          </p>
                                                          <span>
                                                          <pre cols="72">73, Gomes op: CT1HIX
<a href="https://radio-amador.wixsite.com/ct1hix" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://radio-amador.wixsite.c<wbr>om/ct1hix</a></pre>
                                                          </span></span>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><span>
                                                          <div>Às 14:29
                                                          de 04-04-2017,
                                                          João Costa
                                                          &gt; CT1FBF
                                                          escreveu: </div>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <blockquote type="cite">
                                                          <div><span>Obviamente
                                                          quando o
                                                          assunto é alta
                                                          potencia e
                                                          auto-spoting,
                                                          o <span style="font-size:12.8px">&quot;sentimos
                                                          que...&quot; &quot;ou
                                                          dá-nos a
                                                          sensação&quot;... é
                                                          talvez a
                                                          única justificação,
                                                          diria,
                                                          provável de
                                                          ser utilizada
                                                          pela
                                                          organização.
                                                          Talvez, não
                                                          fosse má ideia
                                                          acabar com
                                                          essas regras.</span>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:12.8px">
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:12.8px">A
                                                          ética do
                                                          discurso
                                                          ensina-nos,
                                                          que não nos
                                                          interessa
                                                          examinar a
                                                          forma de
                                                          argumentação,
                                                          se é
                                                          possível provar
                                                          tudo o que se
                                                          pretende, mas
                                                          para isso, a
                                                          prova de cada
                                                          pressuposto
                                                          deve ser
                                                          analisada
                                                          separadamente
                                                          ou então
                                                          examinar, a
                                                          forma de
                                                          obtenção da
                                                          prova. Nestes
                                                          casos, é
                                                          manifestamente
                                                          difícil uma
                                                          organização
                                                          ter meios para
                                                          isso. </span></div>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:12.8px">
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:12.8px">João
                                                          Costa
                                                          (CT1FBF) </span>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote"><span>Em
                                                          4 de abril de
                                                          2017 12:55,
                                                          Joel Lobão <span>&lt;<a rel="nofollow">joel....@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> escreveu: </span>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div><span>
                                                          <div>Eu falei
                                                          em bem mais de
                                                          1,5KW. não foi
                                                          em pouco mais.
                                                          Há malta com
                                                          mais de 5KW. E
                                                          sim, faz a
                                                          diferença.
                                                          Todos os dB
                                                          contam. E não
                                                          digo que umas
                                                          regras sejam
                                                          mais
                                                          importantes
                                                          que outras,
                                                          mas ha regras
                                                          que nem
                                                          conseguem
                                                          provar. Nem
                                                          sequer são
                                                          coisas
                                                          controláveis
                                                          pelos
                                                          operadores. Eu
                                                          posso não
                                                          estar em
                                                          concurso e
                                                          spotar apenas
                                                          um amigo. Que
                                                          culpa tem ele?
                                                          Sabemos que
                                                          muitos desses
                                                          spots são self
                                                          spots, mas se
                                                          o IP não for o
                                                          mesmo não
                                                          podem
                                                          desclassificar
                                                          a estação
                                                          apenas por
                                                          acharem que
                                                          foi a pedido.
                                                          Tem de haver
                                                          provas
                                                          inequívocas
                                                          para
                                                          desclassificarem
                                                          alguém. Não
                                                          pode ser
                                                          apenas pq
                                                          &quot;sentem&quot;(palavras
                                                          utilizadas
                                                          pelo CC) que
                                                          foi a
                                                          pedido... Isto
                                                          não é
                                                          esoterismo. Ou
                                                          há provas ou
                                                          não podem
                                                          desclassificar.
                                                          Eu vi os mails
                                                          trocados entre
                                                          o CC e o 3V8SS
                                                          e utilizam
                                                          demasiado o
                                                          &quot;sentimos
                                                          que...&quot; &quot;ou
                                                          dá-nos a
                                                          sensação&quot;...
                                                          Mas agora há
                                                          cartomantes ou
                                                          médiuns no CC?
                                                          Deviam mostrar
                                                          as provas que
                                                          levaram a
                                                          desclassificar
                                                          as estações. </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Ou acham
                                                          que o Randy
                                                          andava a
                                                          dormir e que
                                                          este
                                                          triunvirato é
                                                          que são muitos
                                                          mais astutos? </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Eu gosto
                                                          que esse
                                                          processo devia
                                                          ser mais
                                                          transparente
                                                          para o bem de
                                                          todos. Até
                                                          para prevenir
                                                          que outros
                                                          cometam as
                                                          mesmas
                                                          infrações. </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>73 de
                                                          CT1HXB - Joel
                                                          Lobão</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote"><span>Em
                                                          04/04/2017
                                                          11:55,
                                                          &quot;ct1eat&quot; &lt;<a rel="nofollow">ct1...@gmail.com</a>&gt; escreveu: </span>
                                                          <blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div><span>
                                                          <div>Bom dia a
                                                          todos</div>
                                                          <div>Discordo
                                                          que existam
                                                          normas mais
                                                          importantes
                                                          que outras. Na
                                                          minha humilde
                                                          opinião, todas
                                                          as regras sao
                                                          importantes e
                                                          todas devem
                                                          ser cumpidas.
                                                          E quem não as
                                                          cumpre pode, e
                                                          deve, ser
                                                          desclassificado.
                                                          Ponto.</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>73 FCosta
                                                          CT1EAT </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757">Sent
                                                          from my
                                                          Samsung Galaxy
                                                          smartphone.</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><span>
                                                          <div>--------
                                                          Original
                                                          message
                                                          --------</div>
                                                          <div>From:
                                                          Antonio Matias
                                                          &lt;<a rel="nofollow">ct1...@gmail.com</a>&gt; </div>
                                                          <div>Date:
                                                          04/04/2017
                                                          11:45
                                                          (GMT+00:00) </div>
                                                          </span><span>
                                                          <div>To: <a rel="nofollow">ct-comunicacoe...@googlegroups<wbr>.com</a> </div>
                                                          <div>Subject:
                                                          Re: [CT-Com.
                                                          &amp; Tec.]
                                                          CQWW SSB
                                                          2016-Estações
desqualificadas </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <span>
                                                          <div>Joel
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>A largura
                                                          de banda
                                                          causada por
                                                          splatter tens
                                                          alguma razão,
                                                          mas em relação
                                                          à potencia não
                                                          faz sentido</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Imagina
                                                          que está com
                                                          1,5kW e passas
                                                          para 3kW. </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Sabes
                                                          quanto aumenta
                                                          o sinal?</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Pois,
                                                          meia unidade
                                                          S, ou seja,
                                                          não notas
                                                          nada.</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Portanto,
                                                          quando a malta
                                                          reclama que
                                                          estação A ou B
                                                          estavam com
                                                          1600W,
                                                          portanto 100W
                                                          a mais deveria
                                                          ser
                                                          desclassificada, </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>é um
                                                          argumento
                                                          pouco
                                                          ridículo.</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>73</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote"><span>No
                                                          dia 4 de abril
                                                          de 2017 às
                                                          11:30, Filipe
                                                          Lopes <span>&lt;<a rel="nofollow">ct1...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> escreveu: </span>
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                                                          <div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#0b5394">NO
                                                          COMMENTS...</div>
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                                                          <div><font style="color:rgb(0,0,0)" face="tahoma,
                                                          sans-serif" size="2">73&#39;s Filipe
                                                          Lopes </font>
                                                          <div><font style="color:rgb(0,0,0)" face="tahoma,
                                                          sans-serif" size="2">CT1ILT
                                                          - CR6K</font>
                                                          <div><font size="2"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">F4VPX - TM3M</font></span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"> </span></font></div>
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                                                          <div>No dia 4
                                                          de abril de
                                                          2017 às 12:16,
                                                          Antonio Matias
                                                          <span>&lt;<a rel="nofollow">ct1...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> escreveu: </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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                                                          <div>Está a
                                                          causar grande
                                                          alarido.
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Este ano
                                                          a organização
                                                          desqualificou
                                                          uma imensa
                                                          lista de
                                                          estações, </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>muitas
                                                          delas
                                                          normalmente
                                                          Top-scores.</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>As razões
                                                          são
                                                          desconhecidas,
                                                          mas tudo
                                                          aponta para
                                                          self-spotting
                                                          ou spot-buddy</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>no
                                                          cluster.</div>
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                                                          --
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                                                          <div>António
                                                          Matias
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>CT1FFU -
                                                          CR5A </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
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                                                          <div><font color="#000000" size="2"><b><span style="font-family:Lato,sans-serif">Parque Tecnológico de Óbidos</span>
                                                          <span style="font-family:Lato,sans-serif">Edifícios
                                                          Centrais, Rua
                                                          da
                                                          Criatividade</span>
                                                          <span style="font-family:Lato,sans-serif">2510-216
                                                          Óbidos </span></b></font>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><font color="#000000" size="2"><b><span style="font-family:Lato,sans-serif">Portugal</span></b></font></div>
                                                          <div><span style="color:rgb(131,130,129);font-family:Lato,sans-serif;font-size:13.1999998092651px"><b>
                                                          </b></span></div>
                                                          <div><b>POBOX-38</b></div>
                                                          <div><b>2504-909</b></div>
                                                          <div><b>Caldas
                                                          da Rainha</b></div>
                                                          <div><b>Portugal</b></div>
                                                          <div><b> </b></div>
                                                          <div><font color="#000000"><strong style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;font-size:13.1999998092651px">Coordenadas
                                                          GPS:</strong>
                                                          <span style="font-family:Lato,sans-serif;font-size:13.1999998092651px">Latitude=
                                                          39.38144</span>
                                                          <span style="font-family:Lato,sans-serif;font-size:13.1999998092651px">Longitude=
                                                          -9.14494</span></font><span><font color="#888888"><b> </b></font></span></div>
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                                                          --
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                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>António
                                                          Matias
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>CT1FFU -
                                                          CR5A </div>
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                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div><font color="#000000" size="2"><b><span style="font-family:Lato,sans-serif">Parque Tecnológico de Óbidos</span>
                                                          <span style="font-family:Lato,sans-serif">Edifícios
                                                          Centrais, Rua
                                                          da
                                                          Criatividade</span>
                                                          <span style="font-family:Lato,sans-serif">2510-216
                                                          Óbidos </span></b></font>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><font color="#000000" size="2"><b><span style="font-family:Lato,sans-serif">Portugal</span></b></font></div>
                                                          <div><span style="color:rgb(131,130,129);font-family:Lato,sans-serif;font-size:13.1999998092651px"><b>
                                                          </b></span></div>
                                                          <div><b>POBOX-38</b></div>
                                                          <div><b>2504-909</b></div>
                                                          <div><b>Caldas
                                                          da Rainha</b></div>
                                                          <div><b>Portugal</b></div>
                                                          <div><b> </b></div>
                                                          <div><font color="#000000"><strong style="margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:Lato,sans-serif;font-size:13.1999998092651px">Coordenadas
                                                          GPS:</strong>
                                                          <span style="font-family:Lato,sans-serif;font-size:13.1999998092651px">Latitude=
                                                          39.38144</span>
                                                          <span style="font-family:Lato,sans-serif;font-size:13.1999998092651px">Longitude=
                                                          -9.14494</span></font><b>
                                                          </b></div>
                                                          </div>
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