<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Boas,<br><br></div>Acabado de ver<i> no Facecoiso:<br><br></i><div class="gmail-_6a gmail-_5u5j gmail-_6b"><h5 class="gmail-_5pbw gmail-_5vra" id="gmail-js_4"><i><span class="gmail-fwn gmail-fcg"><span class="gmail-fwb gmail-fcg"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/dk5ras?fref=nf">"Ralph A. Schmid</a></span></span></i></h5></div><p><i><abbr>J</abbr>ust
wanted to tell that the BaoFeng / PoFung DM-5R is not capable of TDMA,
even with the latest update. I flashed my radio yesterday and made some
tests in the evening.</i></p><p><i> So when using simplex, all is fine, and also for hotspot usage.<br>
But when operating on a repeater, it messes up the unused timeslot, as
it transmits CW/continuously. However it works and is normally heard on
the repeater, what makes things even worse, wish it simply would not
work at all on repeaters. One without this knowledge even does not
realize that he is doing harm to other users.</i></p><p><i> When you think of using a real DMR repeater with it, forget it. You will not make friends with it <span class="gmail-_47e3" title="smile emoticon"><span class="gmail-_7oe">:)</span></span></i></p><p><i> Also the mic sensitivity is quite low, the modulation sounds not very good.</i></p><p><i>
RF performance looks good, by means of blocking it is better than a
Tytera MD-380. RX audio is OK. Maybe later I can hook it to my tester
for RX sensitivity, TX power, deviation, frequency accuracy, but I do
not expect any surprise from that.</i></p><p><i> The CPS is so far easy to use,
easy to understand if one knows DMR, it has some typos in the menus,
but I have seen worse software from China. The cable seems to be one of
the normal ones, common for this kind of radio, with a USB/COM converter
inside.</i></p><i> I decided to keep mine, as a DMR scanner and for the
occasional simplex/hotspot operation. Otherwise I stay with my trusted
$$$ Motorola"<br></i><br></div>Cautela ao adquirir... pode não ser exactamente aquilo que se espera.<br><br><br></div>Cumprimentos<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px;font:12.0px Helvetica">Salomão Fresco</p>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 1:31 PM, CR7ALB Rui Silva <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cr7alb@outlook.pt" target="_blank">cr7alb@outlook.pt</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Light",sans-serif">Portanto.<br>
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cerca de 55,00€ por um radio Baofeng – Já conhecido – com DMR – VHF e UHF!<br>
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Acho que vou perder amor a 50,00€ - Os 5 tenho aqui no bolso eheheh!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Light",sans-serif">Sem outro assunto de momento<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Light",sans-serif">Cumprimentos<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Light",sans-serif">73<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Light",sans-serif">Rui Brito da Silva<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Light",sans-serif">CR7ALB – CS7ALB<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Light",sans-serif"><a href="tel:936345233" value="+351936345233" target="_blank">936345233</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Light",sans-serif">Não é uma papel que diz aquilo que somos, mas sim, o que fazemos.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">De:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <a href="mailto:cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net" target="_blank">cluster-bounces@radio-amador.<wbr>net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net" target="_blank">cluster-bounces@radio-<wbr>amador.net</a>]
<b>Em nome de </b>João Costa > CT1FBF<br>
<b>Enviada:</b> 13 de outubro de 2016 17:58<br>
<b>Para:</b> Cluster-ARLA <<a href="mailto:cluster@radio-amador.net" target="_blank">cluster@radio-amador.net</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ct-comunicacoes-e-tecnologias@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">ct-comunicacoes-e-tecnologias@<wbr>googlegroups.com</a><br>
<b>Assunto:</b> ARLA/CLUSTER: Baofeng DM-5R dual band VHF / UHF DMR já suporta o Tier II através de "upgrade" por mais 10 Dólares<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div class="h5">
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<h1><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333" lang="EN-US">Baofeng DM-5R</span><u></u><u></u></h1>
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Radioddity clarifies DMR Tier II support for the Baofeng DM-5R, a dual band VHF & UHF DMR radio.</span><span lang="EN-US">
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333" lang="EN-US">Much controversy has surrounded the recent announcement by Radioddity of the upcoming launch of the Baofeng DM-5R, a dual band VHF & UHF DMR HT that is to be made available
at the price point of $69.99 USD. In the list of specifications published on the Radioddity website, the Baofeng DM-5R will only support DMR Tier I operation, which will render it incompatible for ham DMR repeater operation, using the most popular ham DMR
repeater networks, including the DMR-MARC, BrandMeister and DMR Plus networks, which only support DMR Tier II operation.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333" lang="EN-US">To get to the bottom of this question regarding the version of DMR that the Baofeng DM-5R would support, we reached out to Radioddity to clarification. In its response,
Radioddity stated that the radio would initially only support DMR Tier I operation, however a software upgrade would be made available by Baofeng via their website in the future for around $10 USD that would enable the radio to be upgraded to support DMR Tier
II operation as well. The full text of this is made available below:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<em><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#999999" lang="EN-US">“Hi there,</span></em><u></u><u></u></p>
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<em><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#999999" lang="EN-US">Thanks for your message and glad to answer your question here.</span></em><u></u><u></u></p>
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<em><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#999999" lang="EN-US">This is the very concern of our users.</span></em><i><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#999999" lang="EN-US"><br>
<em><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">But pls don’t worry, DM-5R support DMR repeater function (DMR Tier I; support Tier II if upgraded with less than $10).</span></em></span></i><u></u><u></u></p>
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<em><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#999999" lang="EN-US">Upgrading software has to be purchased from Baofeng official website, which is under constructed these days.</span></em><i><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#999999" lang="EN-US"><br>
<em><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">We’ll offer it as soon as it’s available.</span></em></span></i><u></u><u></u></p>
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<em><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#999999" lang="EN-US">Your kind understanding and cooperation would be much appreciated.^^</span></em><u></u><u></u></p>
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<em><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#999999" lang="EN-US">Have a good day.</span></em><i><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#999999" lang="EN-US"><br>
<em><span style="font-family:"Georgia",serif">Yako”</span></em></span></i><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333" lang="EN-US">While this may shed some light on the controversy for some, we recommend that potential buyers hold off purchasing one of these units until such time as the radio can be
verified to support DMR Tier II operation. From our experience with DMR thus far, there has been many promises of DMR “wonder” radios and even worse, misrepresentation of the technical specifications for DMR radios from some Chinese two-way radio manufacturers.
Given this, ham DMR users who are not technically adept should exercise caution when confiding purchasing one of the many Chinese brands, as you may end-up with a lemon.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#333333" lang="EN-US">Fonte: VA3XPR</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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