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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Tinha de "descambar" para a comida hehe<br>
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      Tive vários MD380 e ainda tenho um RT3.<br>
      MD390 e RT8 são.... nem carne nem peixe. Nem todos têm GPS
      (confirmar bem o anúncio!) e os que têm, só servem para indicar o
      local onde estamos, o BM não faz nada com essa informação.<br>
      Apesar de não ser suportado pelo firmware personalizado do Travis
      e Cia., neste momento parece que o modelo mais completo é o Vitai
      VDG-385G ou MD380G (por apurar as diferenças, caso existam). Tem
      GPS mas com utilidade * <br>
      Se é para utilização normal e/ou por curiosidade em relação à
      tecnologia, qualquer MD380/RT3 servirá e fica bem mais barato,
      tendo a vantagem de suportar o firmware custom.<br>
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      * chateamos o CT1JIB na sua palestra sobre esta questão, boa?<br>
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        <div>Eu partilho da opinião do Colega Luis Valadas.</div>
        <div>Como doce regional, o leitão da Mealhada supera os
          outros... :D</div>
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        <div>Já agora, e on-topic DMR, uma opção em conta (barata) para
          um equipamento DMR??</div>
        <div>TYT??</div>
        <div>Hytera??</div>
        <div>Retevis??</div>
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        <div>Como sou um completo noob na matéria, agradeço opiniões,
          sugestões e outras ajudas.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">2016-09-15 9:39 GMT+01:00 Luis Valadas
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                um bom leitão e espumante </div>
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                      <div dir="ltr">Luis Valadas
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">No dia 15 de setembro de 2016
                    às 09:36, <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                      <p dir="ltr">Depende Costa, depende....<br>
                        Em Coina também tens os travesseiros de Coina e
                        as Coininhas<br>
                        Em Almada tens o desconhecido Almadan<br>
                        Etc </p>
                      <p dir="ltr">Depende do sítio a combinar ;)</p>
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                            <div>Em 15/09/2016 08:11, "João Costa &gt;
                              CT1FBF" &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:ct1fbf@gmail.com"
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                                <p dir="ltr">O Paulo não especificou.
                                  mas é um dado fundamental a ter em
                                  atenção, o doce tipico desta região
                                  são as Tortas de Azeitão ,</p>
                                <p dir="ltr">João Costa (CT1FBF) </p>
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                                  <div>Em 14/09/2016 15:44, "CS7AGH"
                                    &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:cs7agh@sapo.pt"
                                      target="_blank">cs7agh@sapo.pt</a>&gt;
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                                        <p>Boa tarde colegas</p>
                                        <p>Na sequência de uma conversa
                                          com um colega, venho por este
                                          meio oferecer "publicamente"
                                          os meus préstimos, na medida
                                          do possível para:</p>
                                        <p><br>
                                        </p>
                                        <p>- carregar codeplug
                                          DMRPortugal ou outro</p>
                                        <p><i><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://dmr-portugal.org/?page_id=94" target="_blank">http://dmr-portugal.org/?page_<wbr>id=94</a></i></p>
                                        <p><br>
                                        </p>
                                        <p>- carregar firmware oficial</p>
                                        <p><i><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.tyt888.com/download.html" target="_blank">http://www.tyt888.com/download<wbr>.html</a></i></p>
                                        <p><br>
                                        </p>
                                        <p>- carregar firmware
                                          alternativo <br>
                                        </p>
                                        <p><i><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/travisgoodspeed/md380tools" target="_blank">https://github.com/travisgoods<wbr>peed/md380tools</a></i></p>
                                        <p>que já foi falado aqui nas
                                          listas e que permite, entre
                                          outras coisas e destacando as
                                          <u>principais para mim</u>,
                                          mudar o "tom" do equipamento
                                          que de origem até irrita e
                                          permite carregar (alguns
                                          modelos apenas) a base de
                                          dados de todos os contactos
                                          registados nos sistemas DMR.
                                          Este último é um processo que
                                          demora apenas alguns minutos,
                                          não mexe com o codeplug
                                          carregado no equipamento e
                                          deve ser repetido de tempo a
                                          tempo para garantir a
                                          atualização da lista de
                                          contactos. Após o seu
                                          carregamento, já podem falar
                                          no WW e similares sem ter
                                          problema com o facto de não
                                          saberem quem é o colega do
                                          outro lado porque só aparece
                                          um código. Com esta alteração,
                                          aparece uma nova janela com o
                                          código, TG, indicativo,
                                          localização, etc e tudo o que
                                          o colega introduziu aquando o
                                          registo. Abaixo, um exemplo
                                          encontrado na Internet e o
                                          resultado da busca na base de
                                          dados, para verem a informação
                                          que aparece:<br>
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                                        Tenho utilizado este FW há
                                        bastante tempo para achar que
                                        está estável QB para vos enviar
                                        esta informação.<br>
                                        A última versão já é com base no
                                        FW x13.020, contém a novidade do
                                        nome da zona passar em rodapé
                                        quando é demasiado grande para o
                                        espaço do ecrã, permitindo assim
                                        ler todo o nome (scroll).<br>
                                        Neste momento é suportado a 100%<br>
                                        <ul>
                                          <li>Tytera/TYT MD380 (old
                                            vocoder)</li>
                                          <li>Tytera/TYT MD380 (new
                                            vocoder)</li>
                                          <li>Tytera/TYT MD390 (new
                                            vocoder, no gps)</li>
                                          <li>Retevis RT3</li>
                                        </ul>
                                        Com isto, coloco-me à disposição
                                        para, na medida das nossas
                                        disponibilidades, nos
                                        encontramos na margem sul
                                        (preferencialmente) ou em outro
                                        local conveniente a ambos para
                                        realizar uma das tarefas acima <u><b>GRATUITAMENTE</b></u>.<br>
                                        A única coisa que peço em troca
                                        é compreensão no agendamento,
                                        tanto em termos de data/hora
                                        como do local. Se for para
                                        carregar firmware e atualizar
                                        codeplug já têm de pagar o café
                                        :-)     <b>* (ver nota de
                                          rodapé)</b><br>
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                                        Agora a sério, sem dúvida que
                                        existem aqui várias pessoas com
                                        muito mais know-how desta
                                        tecnologia e equipamentos que eu
                                        mas, na medida do possível,
                                        poderei tentar ajudar com estas
                                        questões a quem sabe ainda menos
                                        que eu.<br>
                                        Qualquer coisa não se preocupem,
                                        tenho o CT1JIB em marcação
                                        rápida :-)<br>
                                        Se forem de muito longe, poderei
                                        tentar ajudar à distância na
                                        medida do possível, avisando
                                        desde já que o processo
                                        realizado numa máquina Linux é
                                        muito mais simples do que numa
                                        com Windows. Falta testar numa
                                        máquina com Win10 Anniversary
                                        com Kernel Ubuntu mas isso são
                                        outros trezentos como se costuma
                                        dizer. Numa máquina Linux basta
                                        seguir o tutorial do Travis e é
                                        um processo relativamente
                                        simples.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        PS: Se conseguirem reunir, por
                                        exemplo, dois ou três
                                        interessados que venham de
                                        Lisboa, podemos combinar um café
                                        pós-laboral num local próximo a
                                        Almada para pouparem em
                                        deslocações e em tempo<br>
                                        PS2: Como é óbvio, em qualquer
                                        processo de atualização de
                                        firmware existe um risco mínimo
                                        de algo correr mal; no entanto,
                                        estes rádios chineses estão TÃO
                                        BEM construidos (não estou a ser
                                        irónico) que dizem ser
                                        praticamente impossível dar cabo
                                        do firmware de forma a não se
                                        conseguir recuperar, temos
                                        sempre acesso ao boot loader e a
                                        forma de corrigir o problema.
                                        Procurando por esta informação
                                        na Internet, não encontro um
                                        caso que um update de firmware
                                        tenha danificado o rádio e o
                                        tenha tornado num belo pisa
                                        papéis. Não obstante, se algo
                                        correr mal, é óbvio que não
                                        poderei assumir os custos de
                                        substituição de equipamento. O
                                        que posso afirmar é que o fiz
                                        centenas de vezes ao meu MD380 e
                                        ainda está vivo. O risco mínimo,
                                        esse terá de ser sempre opção
                                        vossa.<br>
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                                        <b>*</b> Em vez de café, também
                                        se aceita doces típicos da vossa
                                        região :-D<br>
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73,
Paulo
CS7AGH

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                                parar de receber emails do mesmo, envie
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                                  target="_blank">ct-comunicacoes-e-tecnologias+<wbr>unsubscribe@googlegroups.com</a>.<br>
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                                  target="_blank">https://groups.google.com/d/op<wbr>tout</a>.<br>
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                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://radio-amador.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cluster"
                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://radio-amador.net/cgi-bi<wbr>n/mailman/listinfo/cluster</a><br>
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              href="http://radio-amador.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cluster"
              rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://radio-amador.net/cgi-<wbr>bin/mailman/listinfo/cluster</a><br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:CLUSTER@radio-amador.net">CLUSTER@radio-amador.net</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://radio-amador.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cluster">http://radio-amador.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cluster</a>
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73,
Paulo
CS7AGH

A.R.L.A. #100 / DMC #08386 / EPC #25379 / Field Radio Operator #IFR212 / Portuguese QRP Radio Club #079 / QRP Respect #295 / SKCC #12615</pre>
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