<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Bom dia colega Luís Garcia.<br><br></div>Para ligação de internet o 3G/4G aparece como uma solução. Quando se fala em sistemas de voz digital ele também pode perfeitamente cumprir a sua função, no entanto se houver interligações entre eles, por exemplo estarem todos ligados num concentrador, AKA Reflector, aí podem surgir complicações pelos tempos de latência destes dispositivos e pelo "framming" do próprio pacote em si, provocando atrasos entre os sistemas.<br></div>Ainda existe também a vertente €€€, uma ligação 3G/4G precisa para os sistemas que eu acompanho de um contrato que permita no mínimo 4Gb de tráfego/mês, logo este contrato tem um custo mensal, os AP's tem um custo também, mas são pagos de uma só vez e com sorte e se bem instalados duram anos, sem a "mensalidade" ao operador.<br><br></div>Mas para desenrascar dá.<br><div><br><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">No dia 17 de junho de 2016 às 11:49, afterhours36 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:afterhours36@gmail.com" target="_blank">afterhours36@gmail.com</a>></span> escreveu:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Pedro e João, uma banda larga móvel com suporte a yagi direcional não resolveria? <br>
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</div><div>Sent from my Mi phone</div><div>On João Costa > CT1FBF <<a href="mailto:ct1fbf@gmail.com" target="_blank">ct1fbf@gmail.com</a>>, 17/06/2016 11:41 da manhã wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p></p><p dir="ltr">Outra questão fundamental é que os APs estejam a trabalhar no segmento de amador nos 5 GHz, que por enquanto tem menos interferencias. Atenção, que os amadores também tem segmentos atribuidos na banda de 2,4 GHz, mas estes estão nas grandes cidades já totalmente impraticaveis para links minimamente aceitáveis.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Existe aqui pequenas ou enormes nuances que os radioamadores tem de levar em consideração quanto tem de "levar" a Internet para o cimo de uma serra, coisa que não é tão simples como há primeira vista se poderia pensar.</p>
<p dir="ltr">João Costa (CT1FBF) </p>
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style="font-family:"Agency FB","sans-serif"">Loja<u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td style="width:62.55pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="83"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"><span style="font-family:"Agency FB","sans-serif"">País<u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td style="width:72.35pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="96"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right" align="right"><span style="font-family:"Agency FB","sans-serif"">Preço campanha YAESU <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right" align="right"><span style="font-family:"Agency FB","sans-serif"">IVA incluído<u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td style="width:72.3pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="96"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right" align="right"><span style="font-family:"Agency FB","sans-serif"">Transporte<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right" align="right"><span style="font-family:"Agency FB","sans-serif"">(est/informado)<u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td style="width:74.8pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="100"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right" align="right"><span style="font-family:"Agency FB","sans-serif"">preço normal IVA incluído<u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td style="width:512.0pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="683"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"><span style="font-family:"Agency FB","sans-serif"">Condições de venda<u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr><td style="width:112.8pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="150"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">G Lopes *<u></u><u></u></span></b></p></td><td style="width:62.55pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="83"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Portugal<u></u><u></u></span></b></p></td><td style="width:72.35pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="96"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right" align="right"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">738€<u></u><u></u></span></b></p></td><td style="width:72.3pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="96"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right" align="right"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">10€<u></u><u></u></span></b></p></td><td style="width:74.8pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="100"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right" align="right"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">1533€<u></u><u></u></span></b></p></td><td style="width:512.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="683"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">“exclusivamente, fornecer o repetidor afinado, sendo a sua programação montagem e colocação em funcionamento de responsabilidade da Associação.” (sic)</span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr><td style="width:112.8pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="150"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Locura Digital<u></u><u></u></span></b></p></td><td style="width:62.55pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="83"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Espanha<u></u><u></u></span></b></p></td><td style="width:72.35pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="96"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right" align="right"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">724€<u></u><u></u></span></b></p></td><td style="width:72.3pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="96"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right" align="right"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">15€<u></u><u></u></span></b></p></td><td style="width:74.8pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="100"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right" align="right"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">1450€<u></u><u></u></span></b></p></td><td style="width:512.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="683"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></p></td></tr><tr><td style="width:112.8pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="150"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Passion Radio<u></u><u></u></span></b></p></td><td style="width:62.55pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="83"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">França<u></u><u></u></span></b></p></td><td style="width:72.35pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="96"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right" align="right"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">600€<u></u><u></u></span></b></p></td><td style="width:72.3pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="96"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right" align="right"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">20€<u></u><u></u></span></b></p></td><td style="width:74.8pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="100"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right" align="right"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">1200€<u></u><u></u></span></b></p></td><td style="width:512.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="683"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></p></td></tr><tr><td style="width:112.8pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="150"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Passion Radio<u></u><u></u></span></b></p></td><td style="width:62.55pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="83"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">UK<u></u><u></u></span></b></p></td><td style="width:72.35pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="96"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right" align="right"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">600€<u></u><u></u></span></b></p></td><td style="width:72.3pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="96"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right" align="right"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">20€<u></u><u></u></span></b></p></td><td style="width:74.8pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="100"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right" align="right"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">1200€<u></u><u></u></span></b></p></td><td style="width:512.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="683"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></p></td></tr><tr><td style="width:112.8pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="150"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">WIMO<u></u><u></u></span></b></p></td><td style="width:62.55pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="83"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Alemanha<u></u><u></u></span></b></p></td><td style="width:72.35pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="96"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right" align="right"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">575€<u></u><u></u></span></b></p></td><td style="width:72.3pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="96"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right" align="right"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">20€<u></u><u></u></span></b></p></td><td style="width:74.8pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="100"><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:right" align="right"><b><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">1175€<u></u><u></u></span></b></p></td><td style="width:512.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt" valign="top" width="683"><p 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