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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Colega Pedro,<br>
<br>
Convém esclarecer uma coisa o texto da preparação da posição dos
radioamadores Portugueses para o WRC-15 foi de minha autoria, que
foi enviado á ANACOM quando eu ainda fazia<br>
parte da Direcção da REP, após isso a ANACOM endereçou um convite
à REP a integrar o Grupo de Trabalho Português no qual estive eu e
o colega José Francisco CT4AN, embora não<br>
tenha participado em todas as reuniões por motivos de trabalho,
fomos representados pelo colega José Francisco CT4AN.<br>
<br>
Vy 73<br>
Paulo Santos, CT4DK<br>
<br>
Às 14:26 de 03/12/2015, Pedro Carvalho - CT1DBS/CU3HF escreveu:<br>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">Boa tarde João<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Nada a dizer sobre o teu <span
class="SpellE">post</span> <span class="SpellE">excepto</span>
que está tudo certo e que apenas nos corroboramos um ao outro.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Estou muito de acordo que a procissão
ainda vai no adro. Não sendo muito versado em procissões,
penso saber que o <span class="SpellE">trajecto</span> é
combinado antes da procissão sair do adro, quando não é
antes...<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Com as decisões tomadas na WRC-15 todos
os pressupostos que antes foram assumidos muito dificilmente
se manterão válidos, não obstante o excelente trabalho do
colega José Francisco, CT4AN, na preparação da posição
portuguesa para a WRC-15, que deve ser bastamente elogiado e,
se tal for possível pela parte dele, deve continuar com o
assunto nas suas mãos! <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Na minha modesta opinião, como a posição
portuguesa não vingou, a par de todas as outras que tinham
igual entendimento, e porque parece haver uma certa apetência
nas nossas instituições governamentais e regulatórias de <b
style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">seguir o que vem de fora</b>,
a minha questão visa <span class="SpellE">exactamente</span><b
style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"> suscitar a questão da
necessidade de preparação para a necessária consulta pública
que precederá à alteração do QNAF ou, melhor ainda, começar
a fazer pressão quanto antes.</b> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">É que após a WRC-15, no que toca a esta
banda, existem bastantes razões para suspeitar que a posição
das outras partes interessadas seja alterada, nomeadamente a
dos militares, sempre muito atentos aos regulamentos
internacionais. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Digo isto fazendo figas para que fosse
aceite pacificamente uma situação idêntica à da Holanda ! <span
style="font-family:Wingdings;mso-ascii-font-family:Arial;mso-hansi-font-family:Arial;mso-char-type:symbol;mso-symbol-font-family:Wingdings"><span
style="mso-char-type:symbol;mso-symbol-font-family:Wingdings">J</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">E, também é licito pensar que a redução
da faixa de 100 para 15 KHz afetará, necessariamente, tudo o
que antes havia sido combinado, baseado em premissas que,
lamentavelmente, não se concretizaram, nomeadamente os modos
de emissão, etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="mso-no-proof:yes">Vy 73,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="mso-no-proof:yes"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="mso-no-proof:yes">Pedro
CT1DBS/CU3HF ES QRT<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="mso-no-proof:yes"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span
style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT"
lang="EN-US">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net">cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net">mailto:cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net</a>] On Behalf Of João
Costa > CT1FBF<br>
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 12:56 PM<br>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ct-comunicacoes-e-tecnologias@googlegroups.com">ct-comunicacoes-e-tecnologias@googlegroups.com</a><br>
Cc: Cluster-ARLA <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cluster@radio-amador.net"><cluster@radio-amador.net></a><br>
Subject: ARLA/CLUSTER: Re: [CT-Com. </span><span
style="mso-fareast-language:PT">& Tec.] Banda dos 5 MHz
- Holanda</span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">"Face a esta decisão inédita da Holanda,
será que não deveríamos tentar que Portugal, leia-se ANACOM,
fizesse igual ?"<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Prezado Pedro (CT1DBS/CU3HF)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Eu assim espero, dai eu já me ter
manifestado que neste caso ainda a "procissão vai no adro".<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Depois de ler o extenso trabalho
publicado no ultimo boletim informativo da REP de 30-11-2015 e
de autoria do nosso colega José Francisco (CT4AN) sobre as
reuniões preparatórias para a WRC-15 com a ANACOM, fiquei com
a nítida impressão que existirá da parte da desta e das Forças
Armadas portuguesas, abertura para tal, muito embora o
acordado na conferencia.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">" Posição preliminar Nacional Portuguesa
Serviço de Amador está em utilização de momento e em
observação. A comunidade militar não se manifestou contrária a
uma nova atribuição ao Serviço de Amador com estatuto
secundário."<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">"Contamos já como certo e assumido o
apoio oficial das Autoridades do nosso País na WRC-15 votando
SIM à criação duma nova Banda Decamétrica do Serviço de Amador
nos 60 m, de 5350 kHz a 5450 kHz com estatuto Secundário, e
genericamente nos vários items relativos aos Radioamadores.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Da mesma forma, as Entidades Militares
também com autoridade e jurisdição nesse segmento do Espectro,
compreenderam interessadamente e aceitaram os nossos pontos de
vista evocados, e não se oporão a essa concessão."<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Até 2017 a ANACOM vai certamente propor
a alteração ao QNAF, e neste caso especifico ao Anexo 6, o que
deverá assim espero, ser feito mediante uma previa consulta
publica<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Será, nessa altura que todos nós,
incluindo as associações, se vão poder manifestar, isto não
invalidando obviamente que através de uma reunião anterior
inter-associações estas tomem uma posição comum e conjunta
sobre o tema, fundamentada inclusive naquilo que foram as
posições preliminares assumidas nas reuniões preparatórias da
WRC-15 na ANACOM<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Somente uma aclaração, no caso da
Holanda, este segmento já tinha sido anunciado a 5 de Novembro
de 2015, ainda com a WRC-15 no inicio e já com publicação
agendada para 2 de dezembro, independentemente assim parece,
do que se visse a decidir em Genebra.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">VERON News<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://tinyurl.com/Netherlands-5MHz"><span
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style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Dutch regulator <span class="SpellE">Agentschap</span>
Telecom announcement </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://tinyurl.com/Netherlands-AT-5MHz"><span
style="color:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none"
lang="EN-US">http://tinyurl.com/Netherlands-AT-5MHz</span></a><span
style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US" lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">João Costa (CT1FBF)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">Em 3 de dezembro de 2015 11:04, <span
class="SpellE">pedro_gmail</span> <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:pedro.fc.carvalho@gmail.com"><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:pedro.fc.carvalho@gmail.com">pedro.fc.carvalho@gmail.com</a></span></a>>
escreveu:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Bom dia<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> A partir das 23h00 UTC de hoje
(meia noite local), os radioamadores <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> holandeses (full licence) poderão
utilizar, sem restrições e a título <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> secundário, a faixa 5340-5450 KHz
(100 KHz!!!!) JJJJ<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> A Holanda usando as suas
prerrogativas nacionais decidiu fazer dar aos <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> radioamadores mais que o decidido
na WRC-15, depois de consultados os <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> militares, que têm o estatuto
primário sobre a banda.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> E fê-lo com rapidez…<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> As intenções da ANACOM relativas a
esta banda, publicadas no último <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> boletim da REP, caíram por terra,
dadas as decisões tomadas na WRC-15, <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> nomeadamente por terem sido apenas
atribuídos 15 KHz de faixa e 15 W EIRP.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Face a esta decisão inédita da
Holanda, será que não deveríamos tentar <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> que Portugal, leia-se ANACOM,
fizesse igual ?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Sei que não é fácil, que dá
trabalho - sobretudo aos nossos dirigentes <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> associativos -, mas o não está
sempre garantido…<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Vy 73<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Pedro CT1DBS/CU3HF<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> --<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> --<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> Para mais informações/opções visite
o site, e edite a sua conta:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none;text-underline:none">http://groups.google.com/group/ct-comunicacoes-e-tecnologias?hl=en?hl</span></a>=<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">> pt-PT<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">><o:p> </o:p></p>
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