<div dir="ltr">Logo, em casa já altero...<div><br></div><div>Salomão</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-10-12 17:02 GMT+01:00 CS7AGH <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:cs7agh@sapo.pt" target="_blank">cs7agh@sapo.pt</a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <div>Excelente, era isso mesmo que eu
      referia.<br>
      Pelo menos em relação aos 6m, falta o mesmo que a outra que tenho,
      cat2 tem acesso a parte da banda.<br>
      Se for atualizado até quinta por exemplo, lanço uma nova release
      até ao final da semana.<br>
      Colocar mais um PDF são minutos, só temos é de testar o resultado
      em ecrãs mais pequenos porque até aqui os ícones não enchiam o
      espaço todo.<br>
      <br>
      73,<br>
      Paulo<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
      CS7AGH<br>
      <br>
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    <blockquote type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">Boas,
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>cá vai a minha versão em PDF.</div>
        <div>Não tenho possibilidade de verificar agora se está
          actualizada.</div>
        <div>Se não estiver, consigo fazê-lo mais logo.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>73</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Salomão</div>
        <div>CT2IRJ</div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">2015-10-12 16:01 GMT+01:00 Rui Oliveira
          <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ruimail24@gmail.com" target="_blank">ruimail24@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>:<br>
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            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Quando tiver tempo,
              que agora ando numa altura um bocado ocupada, faço
              rapidamente um script em python que gera XMLs a partir de
              csv&#39;s ou algo do género para este uso. <br>
              Eu faço isso com alguma facilidade. <br>
              <br>
              Depois volto com resultados.<span><br>
                <br>
                73;<br>
                Rui Oliveira<br>
                CR7ALW<br>
                <a href="http://qrz.com/db/CR7ALW" target="_blank">http://qrz.com/db/CR7ALW</a><br>
                <br>
              </span>
              <div>
                <div>
                  <div>Às 15:56 de 12/10/2015, CS7AGH escreveu:<br>
                  </div>
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                    <div>Como tinha referido, aceito voluntário(s) :D<br>
                      <br>
                      73,<br>
                      Paulo<br>
                      CS7AGH<br>
                      <br>
                    </div>
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <div dir="ltr">Acho que o Salomão ou o Machado
                        tinham feito em tempos uma coisa catita a esse
                        nivel, só não sei se está actualizado.
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>João Costa (CT1FBF)</div>
                      </div>
                      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                        <div class="gmail_quote">Em 12 de outubro de
                          2015 15:37, CS7AGH <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:cs7agh@sapo.pt" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:cs7agh@sapo.pt" target="_blank">cs7agh@sapo.pt</a>&gt;</span>
                          escreveu:<br>
                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
                              <div>Sim claro.<br>
                                Mas o documento da Anacom é extenso, sem
                                dúvida que o resumo da REP estava mais
                                percetível para quem o conhece, com
                                cores e tudo.<br>
                                Falei no documento pelas limitações da
                                minha app... Sem dúvida que, mais uma
                                vez, ir buscar os dados a uma base de
                                dados nem que seja um xml é sempre mais
                                produtivo.<br>
                                <br>
                                73,<br>
                                Paulo<br>
                                CS7AGH<br>
                                <br>
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                              <blockquote type="cite"> Há o documento da
                                ANACOM. Creio que há um ficheiro só com
                                os planos de bandas, ou pelo menos que
                                se possa tirar a partir dele (com uma
                                impressora pdf virtual ou algo do
                                género).<br>
                                <br>
                                Mais interessante era passar isto tudo
                                para base de dados... Há bocado enviei
                                e-mail ao colega Luis, CT2FZI, sobre
                                passar os repetidores para base de
                                dados, o que fiz, em rascunho, aqui:<br>
                                <a href="https://www.obvibase.com/p/toyXZV3AAsCY" target="_blank">https://www.obvibase.com/p/toyXZV3AAsCY</a><br>
                                Ainda faltam umas coisas, mas ao menos
                                essa base de dados é rapidamente
                                exportável para csv, o que pode ser de
                                alguma utilidade para as apps, e de
                                muita utilidade para os meus mapas.<br>
                                Só é pena nao ser SQL por trás. Se
                                alguém conhecer algo gratuito melhor,
                                que diga...<br>
                                <br>
                                Mas onde quero chegar é que se podia
                                fazer algo semelhante para a app, melhor
                                do que apenas ver um pdf in app. Digo
                                eu....<br>
                                <br>
                                73;<br>
                                Rui Oliveira<br>
                                CR7ALW<br>
                                <a href="http://qrz.com/db/CR7ALW" target="_blank">http://qrz.com/db/CR7ALW</a><br>
                                <br>
                                <div>Às 15:15 de 12/10/2015, CS7AGH
                                  escreveu:<br>
                                </div>
                                <blockquote type="cite">
                                  <div>Obrigado a todos pelos
                                    comentários, via cluster ou email
                                    direto.<br>
                                    Se existir um documento de resumo
                                    atualizado/completo que possa ser
                                    transformado em PDF, poderá ser
                                    colocado numa futura release como
                                    está o do João.<br>
                                    Eu tenho uma lista feita pela REP há
                                    um tempo, mas não está atualizada
                                    (ex. falta a alteração nos 6m para
                                    os cat2).<br>
                                    Se alguém fornecer e for mantendo
                                    atualizado, terei todo o gosto em
                                    incluir para, exatamente, ficar
                                    tudo-em-um :)<br>
                                    <br>
                                    73,<br>
                                    Paulo<br>
                                    CS7AGH<br>
                                    <br>
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                                    <div dir="ltr">Boas,
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>Gosto da app.</div>
                                      <div>Uma sugestão para outra app,
                                        ou para incluir nesta:</div>
                                      <div>Um plano de bandas HF, V e U
                                        com a distribuição por Classes
                                        A,1/B,2/C,3...</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>Fica a ideia. Se a opção for
                                        a inclusão nesta app, ficaria
                                        uma solução integrada
                                        tudo-em-um.</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>Cumprimentos</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>Salomão Fresco</div>
                                      <div>CT2IRJ</div>
                                    </div>
                                    <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                      <div class="gmail_quote">2015-10-12
                                        13:58 GMT+01:00 Victor Moreira <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ct2ixp@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:ct2ixp@gmail.com" target="_blank">ct2ixp@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>:<br>
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                                          <p dir="ltr">Excelente
                                            trabalho! </p>
                                          <p dir="ltr">Já estou a
                                            testar. </p>
                                          <p dir="ltr">Os
                                            Melhores Cumprimentos<br>
                                            <br>
                                          </p>
                                          <p dir="ltr">CT2IXP / Victor
                                            Moreira</p>
                                          <p dir="ltr">DMR ID (268) 1005<br>
                                            Telem: <a href="tel:%2B351%20966233816" value="+351966233816" target="_blank">+351
                                              966233816</a><br>
                                            E-mail: <a href="mailto:ct2ixp@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:ct2ixp@gmail.com" target="_blank">ct2ixp@gmail.com</a><br>
                                            QTH: Alfena - Valongo<br>
                                            Locator: IN51RF<br>
                                            CQ Zone  14 / ITU Zone   37<br>
                                            ARBA Member #709<br>
                                            Info: <a href="http://www.qrz.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.qrz.com" target="_blank">www.qrz.com</a></p>
                                          <p dir="ltr">    </p>
                                          <div class="gmail_quote">
                                            <div>
                                              <div>Em 12/10/2015 12:35,
                                                &quot;CS7AGH&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:cs7agh@sapo.pt" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:cs7agh@sapo.pt" target="_blank">cs7agh@sapo.pt</a>&gt;
                                                escreveu:<br type="attribution">
                                              </div>
                                            </div>
                                            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                              <div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Bom
                                                    dia colegas.<br>
                                                    Na sequência da
                                                    conversa tida
                                                    recentemente neste
                                                    cluster e por forma
                                                    a dar apoio imediato
                                                    às atividades
                                                    escutistas do
                                                    próximo fim de
                                                    semana, tomei a
                                                    liberdade de
                                                    atualizar uma app
                                                    que criei há algum
                                                    tempo e que tinha
                                                    sido encostada há
                                                    perto de um ano.
                                                    Esta aplicação está
                                                    em versão &quot;beta&quot;
                                                    dado que até ao
                                                    momento era
                                                    utilizada apenas por
                                                    três pessoas.
                                                    Atualmente, a versão
                                                    1.5 já foi testada
                                                    por mais alguns
                                                    colegas e julgo
                                                    estar em condições
                                                    de a divulgar a
                                                    público, colmatando
                                                    assim uma
                                                    necessidade do JOTA,
                                                    terem numa só
                                                    aplicação acesso a
                                                    várias bases de
                                                    dados importantes à
                                                    atividade.<br>
                                                    Nota importante:
                                                    esta aplicação tem,
                                                    de momento, alguma
                                                    publicidade
                                                    esporádica dado ter
                                                    sido criada numa
                                                    plataforma gratuita.
                                                    Estou a trabalhar no
                                                    sentido de a remover
                                                    assim que possível.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Assim e sem vos
                                                    maçar mais, segue o
                                                    link direto para que
                                                    a possam testar: <a href="https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2KFD4YOeenlTGh3dTI4dFNSWG8" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2KFD4YOeenlTGh3dTI4dFNSWG8" target="_blank">https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2KFD4YOeenlTGh3dTI4dFNSWG8</a><br>
                                                    Esta aplicação, que
                                                    para instalar
                                                    necessita da opção
                                                    abaixo ativa nas
                                                    Definições de
                                                    Segurança do vosso
                                                    telefone (por não
                                                    ser instalada via
                                                    loja Google):<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <img src="cid:part12.05030408.06040603@sapo.pt" alt="" height="41" width="225"><br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    tem as seguintes
                                                    funcionalidades: <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <img src="cid:part13.02020105.00050907@sapo.pt" alt="" height="632" width="396"><br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Os primeiros seis
                                                    são explícitos,
                                                    mostra os
                                                    repetidores das mais
                                                    variadas bandas como
                                                    2m, 70cm, 23cm, etc.<br>
                                                    Acrescentei ainda a
                                                    pedido do colega
                                                    João - CT1FBF as
                                                    radio balizas,
                                                    repetidores de banda
                                                    cruzada e
                                                    repetidores que
                                                    estão interligados.<br>
                                                    No final, encontram
                                                    os pontos SOTA
                                                    nacionais, projetos
                                                    de colocação de
                                                    repetidores e a
                                                    tabela completa em
                                                    formato PDF.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Pressionando por
                                                    exemplo o botão VHF,
                                                    são levados para um
                                                    mapa com base no
                                                    serviços da Google,
                                                    com todas as suas
                                                    funcionalidades
                                                    (zoom,
                                                    mapa/satélite, etc.)
                                                    onde podem ver não
                                                    só os vários
                                                    repetidores listados
                                                    (pontos vermelhos),
                                                    a lista onde estão
                                                    (canto superior
                                                    esquerdo), um botão
                                                    de atualizar o mapa
                                                    e as opções (canto
                                                    superior direito). A
                                                    qualquer momento
                                                    podem voltar atrás
                                                    para mudar de lista
                                                    ou para facilitar
                                                    podem pressionar o
                                                    nome da lista atual
                                                    e serão listadas
                                                    todas as
                                                    disponíveis.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <img src="cid:part14.00090705.00050306@sapo.pt" alt="" height="635" width="398"><br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Ao pressionar o
                                                    botão central azul
                                                    no topo do ecrã, ele
                                                    irá ativar o GPS do
                                                    vosso dispositivo
                                                    (ver imagem acima) e
                                                    procurar a vossa
                                                    localização. Assim
                                                    que a encontre, irá
                                                    mostrar uma seta no
                                                    mapa, como qualquer
                                                    software de
                                                    navegação. Podem
                                                    desativa-lo
                                                    pressionando o mesmo
                                                    botão, que passa
                                                    para uma antena
                                                    (localização por
                                                    rede GSM/Wifi - ver
                                                    imagem abaixo). Ao
                                                    pressionar um dos
                                                    pontos vermelhos,
                                                    será dada alguma
                                                    informação relevante
                                                    sobre o repetidor,
                                                    como podem ver no
                                                    exemplo:<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    <img src="cid:part15.04000503.09000209@sapo.pt" alt="" height="637" width="399"><br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    E foi este o
                                                    objetivo como referi
                                                    acima, ter várias
                                                    coisas disponíveis
                                                    (repetidores, sota,
                                                    documentos, etc.)
                                                    numa só aplicação de
                                                    acesso rápido e
                                                    fácil, e com dois ou
                                                    três <i>clicks </i>trocar
                                                    entre esta
                                                    informação. Espero
                                                    que gostem e que vos
                                                    seja útil, qualquer
                                                    sugestão/comentário/correção
                                                    será bem vinda(o) no
                                                    meu email. Se for
                                                    enviada ainda esta
                                                    semana melhor, vai a
                                                    tempo de sair uma
                                                    1.6 ou 1.7 para o
                                                    JOTA. Reforço o que
                                                    já coloquei numa
                                                    resposta no cluster
                                                    recentemente, não
                                                    sou programador nem
                                                    pretendo ser, já
                                                    tenho bastante com
                                                    que me entreter, daí
                                                    também ter optado
                                                    por esta via para
                                                    construir a
                                                    aplicação.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Para o pessoal mais
                                                    técnico, ela tem
                                                    2.92MB, depois de
                                                    instalada ocupa
                                                    sensivelmente 10MB e
                                                    tem as seguintes
                                                    permissões:<br>
                                                    - ler o estado do
                                                    telemóvel - para
                                                    permitir
                                                    estatísticas do
                                                    google<br>
                                                    - localização  -
                                                    localizar o
                                                    dispositivo para vos
                                                    mostrar a vossa
                                                    posição no mapa<br>
                                                    - ler/modificar
                                                    conteúdos da memória
                                                    - gerir os ficheiros
                                                    utilizados pela
                                                    aplicação<br>
                                                    - acesso total à
                                                    rede - o mesmo que a
                                                    segunda, caso
                                                    contrário não tinha
                                                    localização via
                                                    GSM/Wi-Fi<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Quem tiver
                                                    dificuldade em
                                                    instalar, dado que
                                                    não está disponível
                                                    via Play Store (por
                                                    enquanto), diga que
                                                    eu darei o apoio
                                                    necessário e
                                                    possível.<br>
                                                    Obrigado a todos
                                                    pelo interesse e
                                                    disponibilidade.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    73,<br>
                                                    Paulo<br>
                                                    CS7AGH<br>
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