<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Pedro mais fácil ainda era acabar com as classes antigas e passar tudo para as novas.<br><b>Mas, tudo tem um mas</b>, depois havia mais pessoal a chorar do que existe agora, <u>potencias mais reduzidas limitações de frequências</u>..... enfim .<br>
</div>Como diz o meu pai se funciona não mexas senão estraga mas pronto alguém a uns anos lá sabia o que estava a fazer. Ou não!!<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">
<span style="color:rgb(56,118,29)"><b><font><span style="font-family:times new roman,serif">Pedro Almeida<br>     CT5JZX<br></span></font></b></span></div><span style="color:rgb(56,118,29)"><b><font><span style="font-family:times new roman,serif"> NRA: PN063<br>
<a href="http://www.qsl.net/ct5jzx/" target="_blank">http://www.qsl.net/ct5jzx/</a><br><a href="http://www.qrz.com/db/CT5JZX" target="_blank">http://www.qrz.com/db/CT5JZX</a><br></span></font></b></span></div></div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">No dia 24 de Julho de 2014 às 21:17, Pedro Ribeiro <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ct7abp@gmail.com" target="_blank">ct7abp@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> escreveu:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

  
    
  
  <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
    Não, não pode ser directamente como dizes.<br>
    <br>
    Isto porque existem colisões, os sufixos não são únicos para todo o
    país, é mesmo por região.<br>
    Isto é, é possivel existir já um C78ABP ou CT9ABP nas regiões
    autónomas por isso, se eu me mudasse para lá também não era uma
    simples alteração de prefixo.<br>
    <br>
    Ainda há dias lembro-me de ter contactado um colega dos Açores (de
    Cat2) que tinha um sufixo igual a um que já conhecia no continente.<br>
    <br>
    Exemplo do site da Anacom (pesquisa)<br>
    <br>
    <table summary="Tabela de Resultados">
      <tbody style="display:table-row-group">
        <tr>
          <td>R.A. Açores (AZR) </td>
          <td>ILHA DE SÃO MIGUEL</td>
          <td>POVOAÇÃO</td>
          <td>CR8ABP</td>
        </tr>
      </tbody>
    </table>
    <br>
    O problema não é assim diferente para os colegas de Cat C, haja
    igualdade.<br>
    <br>
    Teria sido muito mais sensato e facilitador da mobilidade se os
    sufixos fossem atribuídos globalmente e desde logo se reservassem os
    que já estavam atribuídos às categorias remanescentes (ABC), até
    permitiria que esses mudando para as novas categorias pudessem
    manter o sufixo.<br>
    <br>
    73!<br>
    <br>
    <div>On 24-07-2014 18:02, João Costa &gt;
      CT1FBF wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">Basicamente atualmente as coisas passam-se assim:
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>1º - Os categorias 1, A e B do continente quando vão
          residir para as ilhas o seu prefixo passa para CT8 (Açores) e
          CT9 (Madeira), sendo-lhes atribuído também um novo sufixo.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>2º - Os categoria 2  do continente quando vão residir para
          as ilhas o seu prefixo passa para CS8 (Açores) e CS9
          (Madeira), sendo-lhes atribuído também um novo sufixo.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>3º - Os categoria 3 do continente quando vão residir para
          as ilhas o seu prefixo passa para CR8 (Açores) e CR9
          (Madeira), sendo lhes atribuído também um novo sufixo.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Ficam a faltar na equação os categoria C, que prefixo a
          ANACOM te vai atribuir??? CT8 ou CS8, eis a questão.... acho
          que os antigos prefixos já não fazem parte da equação, mas
          posso estar enganado.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>João Costa (CT1FBF)</div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">Em 24 de julho de 2014 17:32, João
          Costa &gt; CT1FBF <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ct1fbf@gmail.com" target="_blank">ct1fbf@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> escreveu:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div dir="ltr">Obviamente que existem amadores da categoria
              C nas Ilhas, o problema é que para todos os efeitos a
              categoria C como a B  e A são remanescentes, isto é, quem
              de lá sair não volta a entrar.
              <div>
                <br>
              </div>
              <div>
                O teu caso é que estás numa categoria remanescente mas
                vais residir para uma área geográfica diferente.
                Obviamente  que tens direito a ter um indicativo que
                certamente vai seguir a nova formulação que no caso da
                categoria C não acho nada explicita neste caso.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Para as outras é simples e taxativo, agora para a C
                quero ler o que nos vão dizer.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>João Costa (CT1FBF)</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
            </div>
            <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
              <br>
              <div class="gmail_quote">
                Em 24 de julho de 2014 17:22, pedro almeida <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:pedrocalixto80@gmail.com" target="_blank">pedrocalixto80@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                escreveu:<br>
                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                  <p>Mas nao existia cat c nas ilhas ?</p>
                  <p>Pedro Almeida<br>
                        CT5JZX</p>
                  <p>Sent from my Android</p>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">No dia 24 de Jul de 2014
                    17:19, &quot;João Costa &amp;gt; CT1FBF&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:ct1fbf@gmail.com" target="_blank">ct1fbf@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                    escreveu:<br type="attribution">
                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                      <div dir="ltr">
                        <div class="gmail_extra">&quot;So me esqueci de uma
                          pergunta entao na actual lei em vigor e se eu
                          mudar de residência para os açores ? Como fico
                          em termos de indicativo ?&quot;</div>
                        <div class="gmail_extra">
                          <br>
                        </div>
                        <div class="gmail_extra">Já respondi. Contactas
                          a ANACOM e dá-nos a conhecer a resposta para
                          ver que indicativo, especialmente estou
                          interessado em saber que prefixo vão eles  te
                          atribuir, sendo tu da categoria C. Porque para
                          as categorias 1, A, B e 2 é facil agora para a
                          C e 3 o caso pode ser, especialmente, para a C
                          complicado.</div>
                        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div class="gmail_extra">Em ultimo caso, ainda
                          te mandam fazer novo exame, para a categoria 2
                          e lá se vai o CT5JZX para o baú. </div>
                        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div class="gmail_extra">
                          Por isso é que eu disse que o Mundo era muito
                          mais perfeito sem os amadores da categoria C.
                          hihihihihi.</div>
                        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div class="gmail_extra">João Costa (CT1FBF)</div>
                        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                        </div>
                        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                          <br>
                          <div class="gmail_quote">Em 24 de julho de
                            2014 16:59, pedro almeida <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:pedrocalixto80@gmail.com" target="_blank">pedrocalixto80@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                            escreveu:<br>
                            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
                              <p>So me esqueci de uma pergunta entao na
                                actual lei em vigor e se eu mudar de
                                residência para os açores ? Como fico em
                                termos de indicativo ?</p>
                              <p>Pedro Almeida<br>
                                    CT5JZX</p>
                              <p>Sent from my Android</p>
                              <div class="gmail_quote">No dia 24 de Jul
                                de 2014 16:55, &quot;pedro almeida&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:pedrocalixto80@gmail.com" target="_blank">pedrocalixto80@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                                escreveu:<br type="attribution">
                                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                  <p>Ok ok . <br>
                                    Ja procurei no arquivo o inicio da
                                    conversa . <br>
                                    Durante estes ultimos 3 anos estive
                                    a operar a bordo da unidade naval
                                    onde presto servico como CT5JZX/MM e
                                    onde consegui o WAC nos 10metros em
                                    PSK31 e mais algumas cartolinas que
                                    muito gozo me deu. Agora esta quase
                                    a chegar a hora de mudar para uma
                                    unidade em terra e tá quase certo
                                    que sera nas ilhas .<br>
                                    Se a minha interpetracao da lei nao
                                    me engana ainda este ano estarei a
                                    operar de S.Miguel como CR9/CT5JZX/P
                                    pelo menos ate me propor para exame.
                                    <br>
                                    Corriga-me se me enganei.</p>
                                  <p>73</p>
                                  <p>Pedro Almeida<br>
                                        CT5JZX</p>
                                  <p>Sent from my Android</p>
                                  <div class="gmail_quote">No dia 24 de
                                    Jul de 2014 16:19, &quot;João Costa
                                    &amp;gt; CT1FBF&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:ct1fbf@gmail.com" target="_blank">ct1fbf@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                                    escreveu:<br type="attribution">
                                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                      <div dir="ltr">
                                        <div>Oh Pedro, obviamente que
                                          estava a brincar.</div>
                                        <div> </div>
                                        <div>Mas se não fossem os CT5
                                          poderia-se perfeitamente
                                          seguir as regras das licenças
                                          CEPT, assim não dá,hihihihi.</div>
                                        <div> </div>
                                        <div>Se leres, vês que as
                                          categorias 1, A, B e 2 até
                                          poderiam estar comtempladas,
                                          mas a categoria C é que não se
                                          encaixa, nem em cima nem em
                                          baixo, dai CT1FBF/P ou /M em
                                          todo o Portugal, seja nas
                                          Ilhas Selvagens ou no Ilhéu
                                          das Formigas.</div>
                                        <div> </div>
                                        <div>João Costa (CT1FBF)</div>
                                        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                          <br>
                                          <div class="gmail_quote">Em 24
                                            de julho de 2014 15:53,
                                            pedro almeida <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:pedrocalixto80@gmail.com" target="_blank">pedrocalixto80@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                            escreveu:<br>
                                            <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class="gmail_quote">
                                              <p>Realmente não percebo o
                                                seu ataque aos CT5 caro
                                                Joao Costa.<br>
                                                Julgo que somos todos
                                                radioamadores .
                                                Prevaricadores ha muitos
                                                e em todas as classes.<br>
                                              </p>
                                              <p><b>Pedro Almeida</b><br>
                                                <b>     CT5JZX</b></p>
                                              <p><b> NRA: PN063</b><br>
                                                <a href="http://www.qsl.net/ct5jzx/" target="_blank"><b>http://www.qsl.net/ct5jzx/</b></a><br>
                                                <a href="http://www.qrz.com/db/CT5JZX" target="_blank"><b>http://www.qrz.com/db/CT5JZX</b></a><br>
                                                <br>
                                              </p>
                                              <div class="gmail_quote">No
                                                dia 24 de Julho de 2014
                                                às 15:27, Antonio
                                                Eduardo Almeida Gil
                                                Silva <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:cs7abf@gmail.com" target="_blank">cs7abf@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                                escreveu:<br>
                                                <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class="gmail_quote">
                                                  Este post esta
                                                  engraçado 
                                                  <div>Com /p ou / m</div>
                                                  <div>Só faltou a / ma
                                                    e / mm</div>
                                                  <div><span></span><br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    No dia quinta-feira,
                                                    24 de Julho de 2014,
                                                    João Costa &gt;
                                                    CT1FBF &lt;<a href="mailto:ct1fbf@gmail.com" target="_blank">ct1fbf@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                                                    escreveu:
                                                    <div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                        <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class="gmail_quote">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">&quot;
                                                          Quanto aos /P
                                                          ou /M no meu
                                                          fraco
                                                          entender, se
                                                          formos para a
                                                          madeira terá
                                                          que ser
                                                          Prefixo local
                                                          / indicativo /
                                                          P ou /M
                                                          consoante a
                                                          utilização /P
                                                          ou /M
                                                          (móvel).Cá
                                                          dentro do
                                                          retangulo será
                                                          /1 (para fixo)
                                                          /P para
                                                          expedições cá
                                                          dentro ou /M
                                                          para móvel. &quot;
                                                          <div>
                                                           </div>
                                                          <div>Devia
                                                          ser, mas
                                                          efectivamente não
                                                          é,
                                                          Albuquerque. </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                           </div>
                                                          <div>No
                                                          entendimento
                                                          da ANACOM.
                                                          Portugal é
                                                          uno e
                                                          indivisivel,
                                                          assim
                                                           CT1FBF/P ou
                                                          /M em todo o
                                                          Portugal, seja
                                                          nas Ilhas
                                                          Selvagens ou
                                                          no Ilhéu das
                                                          Formigas, o
                                                          que é
                                                          uma baita de
                                                          uma confusão a
                                                          nível
                                                          internacional.</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Tenho é
                                                          uma duvida, se
                                                          isto fôr
                                                          levado ao
                                                          extremo,
                                                          poderemos ter
                                                          CT1AOZ/1 (só,
                                                          mas bem
                                                          acompanhado)
                                                          nas Ilhas
                                                          Desertas. </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Não sei
                                                          se algum
                                                          colega do
                                                          continente ou
                                                          vice-versa já
                                                          tentou
                                                          licenciar uma
                                                          estação
                                                          adicional nas
                                                          ilhas
                                                          atlanticas ou
                                                          ao
                                                          contrario.???
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Provalvelmente
                                                          a melhor opção
                                                          é mesmo requer
                                                          um
                                                          novo indicativo
                                                          fixo na ANACOM
                                                          dos Açores ou
                                                          na Madeira e
                                                          pagar mais 20€
                                                          por ano, a ter
                                                          de regista-lo
                                                          como /1
                                                          gratuitamente.</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>João
                                                          Costa (CT1FBF)<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_extra">
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">Em
                                                          24 de julho de
                                                          2014 14:53,
                                                          Jose Albu <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a>ct1aoz@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> escreveu:<br>
                                                          <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class="gmail_quote">

                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>Olá boa
                                                          tarde.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Estão a
                                                          falar de
                                                          ética?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Onde é
                                                          que ela está
                                                          quando se
                                                          opera com 1 kw
                                                          ( high power)
                                                          e se declara
                                                          100Watts (low
                                                          power) ? ou se
                                                          opera grande
                                                          parte do tempo
                                                          com 100 watts(
                                                          Low Power)  e
                                                          se declara 
                                                          QRP(5Watts) ?
                                                          e se fazem
                                                          contactos com
                                                          os indicativos
                                                          dos amigos? (
                                                          que por acaso
                                                          até estão a
                                                          trabalhar) ?
                                                          Fazer anuncios
                                                          no cluster do
                                                          seu próprio
                                                          indicativo com
                                                          o indicativo
                                                          do vizinho?
                                                          (que pela
                                                          certa nem sabe
                                                          do que se
                                                          passa)...<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Colegas e
                                                          amigos é para
                                                          isto que chamo
                                                          a V/ atenção e
                                                          denunciem ou
                                                          então alertem
                                                          para ver se
                                                          realmente se
                                                          entra no bom
                                                          caminho... e
                                                          os
                                                          prevaricadores
                                                          se tenhao
                                                          vergonha e
                                                          deixem de
                                                          pensar que os
                                                          outros são
                                                          todos
                                                          parvos...<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Há mais
                                                          exemplos mas
                                                          deixo apenas
                                                          estes para
                                                          lançar mais
                                                          achas prá
                                                          fogueira.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Estou
                                                          como o Costa
                                                          diz... Se já
                                                          fez o contacto
                                                          com o seu
                                                          proprio
                                                          indicativo pra
                                                          que voltar a
                                                          fazer com o
                                                          seu proprio
                                                          indicativo de
                                                          contestes
                                                          outra vez...
                                                          tambem não
                                                          percebo...<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Realmente
                                                          o indicativo é
                                                          da estação mas
                                                          quem é que
                                                          registou a
                                                          estação ? não
                                                          fui eu? então
                                                          de quem é o
                                                          indicativo
                                                          ???? é do meu
                                                          vizinho ? não
                                                          será meu que
                                                          sou realmente
                                                          perante a lei
                                                          o responsável
                                                          pelo bom uso
                                                          da mesma?
                                                          Então para que
                                                          é tanta
                                                          dúvida?.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Quanto
                                                          aos /P ou /M
                                                          no meu fraco
                                                          entender, se
                                                          formos para a
                                                          madeira terá
                                                          que ser
                                                          Prefixo local
                                                          / indicativo /
                                                          P ou /M
                                                          consoante a
                                                          utilização /P
                                                          ou /M (móvel).<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Cá dentro
                                                          do retangulo
                                                          será /1 (para
                                                          fixo) /P para
                                                          expedições cá
                                                          dentro ou /M
                                                          para móvel.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          73...<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          J.Albuquerque<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>CT1AOZ<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">No
                                                          dia 24 de
                                                          Julho de 2014
                                                          às 13:35, João
                                                          Costa &gt;
                                                          CT1FBF <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a>ct1fbf@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> escreveu:<br>
                                                          <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class="gmail_quote">
---------- Mensagem encaminhada ----------<br>
                                                          De: João Costa
                                                          (CT1FBF) &lt;<a>ct1fbf@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                                          Data: 23 de
                                                          julho de 2014
                                                          22:52<br>
                                                          Assunto: Re:
                                                          [CT-Com. &amp;
                                                          Tec.]
                                                          Comportamento
                                                          pouco ético? -
                                                          parte 2<br>
                                                          Para: Pedro
                                                          Ribeiro -
                                                          CR7ABP &lt;<a>ct7abp@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Estás
                                                          totalmente
                                                          certo Pedro, o
                                                          que se
                                                          compreende e
                                                          se aceita para<br>
                                                          Portugal
                                                          continental,
                                                          mas custa a
                                                          engolir para
                                                          as ilhas dos
                                                          Açores e<br>
                                                          da Madeira,
                                                          que afinal
                                                          estão em áreas
                                                          geográficas
                                                          distintas,
                                                          quando<br>
                                                          não mesmo
                                                          noutra placa
                                                          continental,
                                                          caso da
                                                          Madeira, na
                                                          placa<br>
                                                          continental
                                                          africana.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Dai eu ter
                                                          escrito que se
                                                          não fossem os
                                                          categoria C,
                                                          (CT5 no<br>
                                                          continente), o
                                                          Mundo seria um
                                                          local mais
                                                          perfeito, pois
                                                          até se podia<br>
                                                          usar o mesmo
                                                          que para as
                                                          licenças CEPT
                                                          estrangeiras.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Assim,
                                                          CT1FBF/P ou /M
                                                          em todo o
                                                          Portugal, uno
                                                          e indivisil,
                                                          seja nas<br>
                                                          Ilhas
                                                          Selvagens ou
                                                          no Ilhéu das
                                                          Formigas, o
                                                          que é uma
                                                          senhora
                                                          confusão<br>
                                                          a nível
                                                          internacional.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Agora se é
                                                          assim, teria
                                                          de ser
                                                          CT1FBF/1 caso
                                                          tivesse a
                                                          sorte de ter<br>
                                                          uma adicional
                                                          na Madeira ou
                                                          nos Açores.
                                                          Por acaso já
                                                          existe
                                                          CT1FBF/1<br>
                                                          em Coja -
                                                          Arganil.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Obviamente que
                                                          o indicativo é
                                                          e sempre foi
                                                          atribuído à
                                                          estação,<br>
                                                          dependente sim
                                                          da categoria
                                                          do operador,
                                                          não me consta
                                                          que se
                                                          autorize<br>
                                                          João CT1FBF
                                                          Costa no
                                                          registo do
                                                          Cartão de
                                                          Cidadão,
                                                          hihihi.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          João Costa
                                                          (CT1FBF)<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Pedro Ribeiro
                                                          &lt;<a>ct7abp@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                                                          escreveu:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Boa noite,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Ou me está a
                                                          escapar algo
                                                          ou, no caso
                                                          nacional a
                                                          regulamentação
                                                          actual<br>
                                                          não impõe a
                                                          necessidade de
                                                          qualquer
                                                          prefixo extra
                                                          para um
                                                          indicativo<br>
                                                          nacional em
                                                          modo /P (ou
                                                          /M) noutra
                                                          área
                                                          geográfica
                                                          diferente da
                                                          em que<br>
                                                          tem a estação
                                                          base.<br>
                                                          Já agora um
                                                          caso
                                                          interessante
                                                          relacionado. E
                                                          se alguém
                                                          quiser ter uma<br>
                                                          segunda
                                                          estação noutra
                                                          área
                                                          geográfica
                                                          nacional, que
                                                          indicativo /1<br>
                                                          terá???<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Só encontro
                                                          menção no uso
                                                          dos prefixos
                                                          para os casos
                                                          de licenças
                                                          CEPT,<br>
                                                          CEPT Novice
                                                          emitidos por
                                                          outras
                                                          administrações
                                                          ou de acordos<br>
                                                          internacionais
                                                          de
                                                          reciprocidade.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Páginas 16 a
                                                          18 da
                                                          regulamentação
                                                          de
                                                          procedimentos.<br>
                                                          <a href="http://www.anacom.pt/render.jsp?categoryId=38761" target="_blank">http://www.anacom.pt/render.jsp?categoryId=38761</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          73!<br>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          On 23-07-2014
                                                          20:45, José E.
                                                          Ribeiro de Sá
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Só um pequeno
                                                          comentário à
                                                          frase do
                                                          Carlos Mourato
                                                          e cito:<br>
                                                          &quot;Ora nada mais
                                                          ilegal, pois
                                                          CT4RK é o
                                                          indicativo da
                                                          estação de
                                                          amador<br>
                                                          e não do
                                                          operador&quot;<br>
                                                          --&gt; FALSO,
                                                          a licença de
                                                          Amador
                                                          (indicativo) é
                                                          atribuída ao
                                                          &quot;operador&quot;<br>
                                                          e não à
                                                          estação, por
                                                          isso é
                                                          perfeitamente
                                                          legal operar
                                                          qualquer outra<br>
                                                          estação desde
                                                          do Território
                                                          Nacional
                                                          somente com o
                                                          seu
                                                          indicativo.<br>
                                                          Deverá
                                                          adicionar o
                                                          prefixo
                                                          &quot;regional&quot;
                                                          sempre que se
                                                          encontrar numa<br>
                                                          região do país
                                                          cujo o prefixo
                                                          seja
                                                          diferente, por
                                                          exemplo da
                                                          Madeira<br>
                                                          como
                                                          CT9/CT4RK, no
                                                          continente
                                                          porém será
                                                          somente o seu
                                                          indicativo<br>
                                                          seguido de /P
                                                          ou /M se for
                                                          essa a
                                                          situação.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          No exemplo, se
                                                          o CT1BXT ou
                                                          CT1FFU fizerem
                                                          contactos da
                                                          Madeira terão<br>
                                                          que usar os
                                                          indicativos
                                                          CT9/CT1xxx,
                                                          pois o prefixo
                                                          da Madeira é<br>
                                                          diferente do
                                                          Continente.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Este é somente
                                                          um ponto de
                                                          vista baseado
                                                          na legislação
                                                          em vigor, não<br>
                                                          vou entrar em
                                                          pormenores
                                                          ligado ao DX
                                                          ou DXCC pois
                                                          os Carlos
                                                          Mourato<br>
                                                          não se
                                                          interessa por
                                                          599&#39;s.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          73<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          José de Sá
                                                           CT1EEB<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          ----- Original
                                                          Message -----<br>
                                                          From: Carlos
                                                          Mourato<br>
                                                          To:
                                                          ct-comunicacoes-e-tecnologias<br>
                                                          Sent:
                                                          Wednesday,
                                                          July 23, 2014
                                                          3:13 PM<br>
                                                          Subject: Re:
                                                          [CT-Com. &amp;
                                                          Tec.]
                                                          Comportamento
                                                          pouco ético? -
                                                          parte 2<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Qualquer coisa
                                                          me está a
                                                          escapar na
                                                          explicação do
                                                          Rodrigo. Claro
                                                          que é<br>
                                                          a minha &quot;veia&quot;
                                                          de não
                                                          simpatizar lá
                                                          muito com os
                                                          &quot;five nines&quot;
                                                          que me<br>
                                                          faz ir ao
                                                          detalhe, mas
                                                          nem todos
                                                          podemos gostar
                                                          do amarelo.
                                                          Então<br>
                                                          vamos a ver a
                                                          seguinte
                                                          situação:<br>
                                                           Uma estação
                                                          de contest
                                                          (daquelas que
                                                          se alugam a
                                                          3000 dolars
                                                          por<br>
                                                          contest) tem
                                                          um indicativo
                                                          atribuido. Ou
                                                          seja a W5XXX,
                                                          eu, CT4RK, (<br>
                                                          caso isso
                                                          fosse posível
                                                          mas não é) vou
                                                          fazer uma
                                                          catrafada de
                                                          five<br>
                                                          nines nessa
                                                          W5XXX, e
                                                          escuto uma
                                                          figurinha  de
                                                          trás do Sol
                                                          posto por<br>
                                                          exemplo FO8AD,
                                                          e vai de dizer
                                                          ..FO8AD
                                                          de.&quot;W5XXX  59
                                                           1001&quot;,
                                                          depois,<br>
                                                          passados 10
                                                          segundos de
                                                          ter terminado
                                                          o QSO (na
                                                          optica de quem
                                                          chama a<br>
                                                          isso um QSO,
                                                          porque para
                                                          mim é um
                                                          contacto) lá
                                                          volto eu à
                                                          carga com a<br>
                                                          mesma estação,
                                                          mas desta vez
                                                          a dar o
                                                          indicativo de
                                                          CT4RK. Ora
                                                          nada<br>
                                                          mais ilegal,
                                                          pois CT4RK é o
                                                          indicativo da
                                                          estação de
                                                          amador e não
                                                          do<br>
                                                          operador. Os
                                                          indicativos
                                                          são de
                                                          estações e não
                                                          de operadores.
                                                          Logo,<br>
                                                          para mim é
                                                          ilegal eu ir
                                                          para a estação
                                                          W5XXX fazer
                                                          contactos com
                                                          o<br>
                                                          indicativo
                                                          CT4RK, pois a
                                                          estação CT4RK
                                                          está em
                                                          Portugal. Isto
                                                          só não<br>
                                                          será válido se
                                                          a estação
                                                          CT4RK tiver um
                                                          outro
                                                          indicativo
                                                          atribuido<br>
                                                          para contests
                                                          e se se usar a
                                                          mesma estação
                                                          com os dois
                                                          indicativos.<br>
                                                          Não cabe na
                                                          cabeça de
                                                          ninguem, que o
                                                          BXT ou o FFU,
                                                          quando vão
                                                          fazer<br>
                                                          &quot;five nines&quot; à
                                                          Madeira,
                                                          utilizem lá na
                                                          estação de
                                                          contest os<br>
                                                          indicativos
                                                          CT1BXT e
                                                          CT1FFU, para
                                                          &quot;facturar&quot; a
                                                          favor das
                                                          estações<br>
                                                          pessoais,
                                                          porque isso é
                                                          não é ético
                                                          nem legal.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          73 de CT4RK<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Cumprimentos:
                                                          CT4RK  Carlos
                                                          Mourato -
                                                          Sines -
                                                          Portugal<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Best regards
                                                          from: CT4RK
                                                          Carlos Mourato
                                                          - Sines -
                                                          Portugal<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Visite o meu
                                                          canal Youtube
                                                          em:<br>
                                                          <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/CT4RK?feature=guide" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/user/CT4RK?feature=guide</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Visit my
                                                          youtube
                                                          channel at:<br>
                                                          <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/CT4RK?feature=guide" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/user/CT4RK?feature=guide</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                           Warning<br>
                                                          Save the Radio
                                                          Spectrum!
                                                          Eliminate
                                                          Broadband over
                                                          Power Line.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Salve o
                                                          espectro
                                                          electromagnético!.
                                                          Não use a rede
                                                          electrica para<br>
                                                          transmitir
                                                          dados. Os
                                                          &quot;homeplugs
                                                          power line&quot; e
                                                          a tecnologia
                                                          &quot;power<br>
                                                          line&quot; causa
                                                          fortes
                                                          interferencias
                                                          noutro
                                                          serviços sem
                                                          voce se<br>
                                                          aperceber.
                                                          Diga não à
                                                          tecnologia
                                                          power line.
                                                          Proteja o
                                                          ambiente<br>
                                                          electromagnético.
                                                          Utilize
                                                          tecnologia de
                                                          redes sem fio,
                                                          denominadas<br>
                                                          wireless.<br>
-----------------------------------------------------------<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          No dia 23 de
                                                          Julho de 2014
                                                          às 14:37,
                                                          Rodrigo &lt;<a>ct1bxt@gmail.com</a>&gt; escreveu:<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt; Boas,<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt; Isso é um
                                                          procedimento
                                                          normal. Por
                                                          vezes, quando
                                                          se usa
                                                          indicativo
                                                          especial, e se
                                                          conclui que
                                                          aquela estação
                                                          interessa,
                                                          pede-se ao om
                                                          para colocar o
                                                          indicativo
                                                          pessoal no
                                                          log.<br>
                                                          &gt; Grave é
                                                          sim o que
                                                          muitos colegas
                                                          fazem-no,
                                                          especialmente
                                                          italianos, que
                                                          é contactar a
                                                          mesma estação
                                                          e na mesma
                                                          banda 2 e 3
                                                          vezes para
                                                          terem a
                                                          certeza
                                                          ABSOLUTA que
                                                          estão no log
                                                          ou parar
                                                          provar que tem
                                                          estações mais
                                                          potentes!!<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt; Rodrigo<br>
                                                          &gt; ct1bxt<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt; Em Wed,
                                                          23 Jul 2014
                                                          14:24:34
                                                          +0100,
                                                          Alexandre
                                                          Moleiro &lt;<a>alexandre.moleiro@gmail.com</a>&gt; escreveu:<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt; Olá,<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt; Desta vez
                                                          venho saber da
                                                          vossa opinião
                                                          sobre o
                                                          seguinte:<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt; Uma
                                                          estação DX
                                                          (algo rara)
                                                          está a chamar
                                                          e gera-se o
                                                          natural
                                                          pile-up de
                                                          estações
                                                          europeias.<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt; A estação
                                                          CT1ZZZ começa
                                                          a chamar no
                                                          pile-up e
                                                          acaba por
                                                          fazer o
                                                          contacto.<br>
                                                          &gt; Passados
                                                          uns momentos
                                                          houve-se a
                                                          mesma
                                                          modulação a
                                                          chamar também
                                                          o DX mas com o
                                                          indicativo
                                                          CR5Z.<br>
                                                          &gt;
                                                          Consultado o
                                                          callbook
                                                          verifica-se
                                                          que CR5Z é o
                                                          &quot;contest call&quot;
                                                          de CT1ZZZ.<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt; Os
                                                          indicativos
                                                          são falsos mas
                                                          aconteceu tal
                                                          e qual.<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt; Não me
                                                          pareceu uma
                                                          actuação muito
                                                          simpática para
                                                          os outros
                                                          radioamadores,
                                                          nem a alguns
                                                          dos que
                                                          estavam no
                                                          pile-up que
                                                          consultaram
                                                          também o
                                                          callbook e
                                                          expressaram a
                                                          sua indignação
                                                          na frequência,
                                                          causando ainda
                                                          mais
                                                          dificuldade a
                                                          quem estava a
                                                          tentar fazer a
                                                          &quot;figurinha&quot;.<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt; Apesar de
                                                          não me parecer
                                                          simpático
                                                          parece-me que
                                                          &quot;legalmente&quot;
                                                          não houve
                                                          nenhum
                                                          atropelo.<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt; Qual a
                                                          vossa opinião
                                                          ?<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt; 73 de
                                                          Alexandre -
                                                          CT1GVN<br>
                                                          &gt; --<br>
                                                          &gt; --<br>
                                                          &gt; Para mais
                                                          informações/opções
                                                          visite o site,
                                                          e edite a sua
                                                          conta:<br>
                                                          &gt; <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/ct-comunicacoes-e-tecnologias?hl=en?hl=pt-PT" target="_blank">http://groups.google.com/group/ct-comunicacoes-e-tecnologias?hl=en?hl=pt-PT</a><br>

                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt; ---<br>
                                                          &gt; Recebeu
                                                          esta mensagem
                                                          porque
                                                          subscreveu ao
                                                          grupo
                                                          &quot;CT-Comunicações
                                                          e Tecnologias&quot;
                                                          do Grupos do
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                                                          &gt; Para
                                                          anular a
                                                          subscrição
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                                                          <a href="https://groups.google.com/d/optout" target="_blank">https://groups.google.com/d/optout</a>.<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt; --<br>
                                                          &gt; A
                                                          utilizar o
                                                          cliente de
                                                          e-mail da
                                                          Opera: <a href="http://www.opera.com/mail/" target="_blank">http://www.opera.com/mail/</a><br>
                                                          &gt; --<br>
                                                          &gt; --<br>
                                                          &gt; Para mais
                                                          informações/opções
                                                          visite o site,
                                                          e edite a sua
                                                          conta:<br>
                                                          &gt; <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/ct-comunicacoes-e-tecnologias?hl=en?hl=pt-PT" target="_blank">http://groups.google.com/group/ct-comunicacoes-e-tecnologias?hl=en?hl=pt-PT</a><br>

                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt; ---<br>
                                                          &gt; Recebeu
                                                          esta mensagem
                                                          porque
                                                          subscreveu ao
                                                          grupo
                                                          &quot;CT-Comunicações
                                                          e Tecnologias&quot;
                                                          do Grupos do
                                                          Google.<br>
                                                          &gt; Para
                                                          anular a
                                                          subscrição
                                                          deste grupo e
                                                          parar de
                                                          receber emails
                                                          do mesmo,
                                                          envie um email
                                                          para <a>ct-comunicacoes-e-tecnologias+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com</a>.<br>
                                                          &gt; Para mais
                                                          opções, visite
                                                          <a href="https://groups.google.com/d/optout" target="_blank">https://groups.google.com/d/optout</a>.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          --<br>
                                                          --<br>
                                                          Para mais
                                                          informações/opções
                                                          visite o site,
                                                          e edite a sua
                                                          conta:<br>
                                                          <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/ct-comunicacoes-e-tecnologias?hl=en?hl=pt-PT" target="_blank">http://groups.google.com/group/ct-comunicacoes-e-tecnologias?hl=en?hl=pt-PT</a><br>

                                                          <br>
                                                          ---<br>
                                                          Recebeu esta
                                                          mensagem
                                                          porque
                                                          subscreveu ao
                                                          grupo
                                                          &quot;CT-Comunicações
                                                          e<br>
                                                          Tecnologias&quot;
                                                          do Grupos do
                                                          Google.<br>
                                                          Para anular a
                                                          subscrição
                                                          deste grupo e
                                                          parar de
                                                          receber emails
                                                          do<br>
                                                          mesmo, envie
                                                          um email para<br>
                                                          <a>ct-comunicacoes-e-tecnologias+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com</a>.<br>
                                                          Para mais
                                                          opções, visite
                                                          <a href="https://groups.google.com/d/optout" target="_blank">https://groups.google.com/d/optout</a>.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          --<br>
                                                          --<br>
                                                          Para mais
                                                          informações/opções
                                                          visite o site,
                                                          e edite a sua
                                                          conta:<br>
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                                                          <br>
                                                          ---<br>
                                                          Recebeu esta
                                                          mensagem
                                                          porque
                                                          subscreveu ao
                                                          grupo
                                                          &quot;CT-Comunicações
                                                          e<br>
                                                          Tecnologias&quot;
                                                          do Grupos do
                                                          Google.<br>
                                                          Para anular a
                                                          subscrição
                                                          deste grupo e
                                                          parar de
                                                          receber emails
                                                          do<br>
                                                          mesmo, envie
                                                          um email para<br>
                                                          <a>ct-comunicacoes-e-tecnologias+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com</a>.<br>
                                                          Para mais
                                                          opções, visite
                                                          <a href="https://groups.google.com/d/optout" target="_blank">https://groups.google.com/d/optout</a>.<br>
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                                                          Recebeu esta
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                                                          inscrito no
                                                          grupo
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                                                          e Tecnologias&quot;
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