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      Tenho 2 destes da Nokia c&aacute; em casa.<br>
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      73 de Paulo Santos, CT4DK<br>
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      Em 19/02/2014 18:53, Pedro Ribeiro escreveu:<br>
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        Parecidos com estes ( <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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        ) mas a vers&atilde;o que s&oacute; d&aacute; 180kbit/s<br>
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        73!<br>
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        On 19-02-2014 18:41, Lu&iacute;s Garcia Filipe wrote:<br>
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              Boas.<br>
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            180 kb/s num par ( 1-rx&nbsp; 2-tx) ou s&oacute; num fio?<br>
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            73,<br>
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          CS7AEL<br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote"> No dia 19 de Fevereiro de 2014 &agrave;s
            18:32, Pedro Ribeiro <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                <div>Tenho aqui dois Nokia que com dois pares de cobre
                  davam 180kbit/s, algo que de vez em quando uso no
                  laborat&oacute;rio para mostrar aos alunos, coisas que ainda
                  se apanham por a&iacute; em produ&ccedil;&atilde;o em alguns locais.<br>
                  E ficam a conhecer a "monstra" ficha do standard de
                  facto nesses equipamentos que &eacute; a do V.35 (s&iacute;ncrono).<br>
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                  73!<br>
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                  On 19-02-2014 17:54, Filipe Pereira wrote:<br>
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                  <p dir="ltr">Que saudades dos modems de banda base da
                    ericsson usados nas chamadas linhas mortas, que n&atilde;o
                    eram mais do que uma liga&ccedil;&atilde;o ponto a ponto entre o
                    par de cobre. <br>
                    73<br>
                    Filipe Pereira<br>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">Em 19/02/2014 11:40, "Renato
                    Encarna&ccedil;&atilde;o" &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:ct7abr@gmail.com" target="_blank">ct7abr@gmail.com</a>&gt;


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                        <div>Um termo mais apropriado agora no Sec. XXI
                          ser&aacute; "banda de base"!<br>
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                        73, Renato<br>
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                        <div class="gmail_quote">No dia 19 de Fevereiro
                          de 2014 &agrave;s 11:21, AV <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                                          <div>Ol&aacute; Luis,<br>
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                                          Bom dia.<br>
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                                        Realmente o termo baixa
                                        frequ&ecirc;ncia era aplicados aos
                                        telefones convencionais onde as
                                        audio-frequ&ecirc;ncias viajavam pelos
                                        condutores de cobre e n&atilde;o
                                        recorriam &agrave; modula&ccedil;&atilde;o de uma
                                        portadora de alta frequ&ecirc;ncia.<br>
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                                    Mesmo nos casos dos telefones fixos
                                    actuais quando ainda se usa a "baixa
                                    frequ&ecirc;ncia" entre a central e o
                                    telefone, a voz passa j&aacute; passa por
                                    toda a sorte de dispositivos de
                                    microondas e j&aacute; n&atilde;o se pode falar
                                    exclusivamente em "baixa
                                    frequ&ecirc;ncia".<br>
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                                  No entanto a express&atilde;o ficou.<br>
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                                <div>Tamb&eacute;m revela uma ideia
                                  interessante, que embora a tecnologia
                                  de r&aacute;dio seja usada em milhentas
                                  coisas, n&atilde;o &eacute; normalmente associada
                                  como tal.<br>
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                                <div>Ningu&eacute;m pega num telem&oacute;vel e diz:
                                  "vou falar aqui pelo meu r&aacute;dio".<br>
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                                  73,<br>
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                                Ant&oacute;nio Vilela<br>
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                              CT1JHQ<br>
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                                    <div class="gmail_quote">2014-02-19
                                      10:55 GMT+00:00 Lu&iacute;s Garcia Filipe
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                                                    <div>Bons dias.<br>
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                                                    Aos colegas mais
                                                    antigos, porque
                                                    designamos por
                                                    atender um telem&oacute;vel
                                                    por "baixa
                                                    frequ&ecirc;ncia" ?<br>
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                                                  Sendo que a frequ&ecirc;ncia
                                                  mais baixa,
                                                  representada pelo 2g
                                                  GSM, andar&aacute; na casa
                                                  dos 900 mhz, mais
                                                  coisa menos coisa, n&atilde;o
                                                  lhe dever&iacute;amos chamar
                                                  por "alta-frequ&ecirc;ncia"
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                                                Fica a duvida e a
                                                curiosidade<br>
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                                                73,<br>
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