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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Boas Renato,<br>
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      Pode n&atilde;o ser perfeita, pode n&atilde;o ser modelo, pode n&atilde;o ser obrigada
      a representar as associa&ccedil;&otilde;es do mundo, mas a meu ver as mudan&ccedil;as
      n&atilde;o podem ser feitas<br>
      criando grupos dissidentes mas sim essas pessoas que n&atilde;o concordam
      com as politicas da IARU juntem-se a ela, criem uma lista e
      apresentem propostas, as<br>
      mudan&ccedil;as n&atilde;o se fazem do exterior mas sim pelo interior, pois
      feitas pelo exterior s&oacute; vem criar atritos e dar m&aacute; imagem ao
      radioamadorismo mundial.<br>
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      73, Paulo Santos, CT4DK<br>
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      Em 11/11/2013 19:04, Renato Encarna&ccedil;&atilde;o escreveu:<br>
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                    <div>Colega Paulo,<br>
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                    Na minha opini&atilde;o, conv&eacute;m parar um pouco para pensar
                    que a IARU:<br>
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                  1) N&atilde;o &eacute; perfeita;<br>
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                2) N&atilde;o &eacute; modelo;<br>
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              3) N&atilde;o &eacute; obrigada a representar todas as associa&ccedil;&otilde;es do
              mundo;<br>
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          Se calhar existem motivos para que existam associa&ccedil;&otilde;es que
          promovem este tipo de eventos n&atilde;o pertencerem &agrave; IARU, ou ser&aacute;
          mera coincid&ecirc;ncia?<br>
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        73, Renato <br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">No dia 11 de Novembro de 2013 &agrave;s 18:48,
          Paulo Santos <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ct4dk.santos@gmail.com" target="_blank">ct4dk.santos@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
          escreveu:<br>
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              <div>Boas,<br>
                Esse congresso &eacute; promovido por associa&ccedil;&otilde;es pertencentes
                &aacute; ERAO um grupo de associa&ccedil;&otilde;es que n&atilde;o pertencem &aacute; IARU
                logo n&atilde;o vejo o que pretendem<br>
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                Paulo Santos, CT4DK<br>
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                Em 11/11/2013 12:30, Jos&eacute; Machado escreveu:<br>
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                              style="color:#951b09;text-decoration:none">CONGR&Egrave;S
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                          congr&egrave;s sur</span></p>
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                            promotion et l'avenir du radioamateurisme</span></strong><span
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                          lieu le</span></p>
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                            novembre 2013 &agrave; Maurepas</span></strong><span
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style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:red">&nbsp;</span></strong><span
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Tout

                          au long de la journ&eacute;e vous pourrez entendre
                          des associations de radioamateurs, des
                          radioclubs, des radioamateurs vous pr&eacute;senter
                          ce qu'ils font pour la<span>&nbsp;</span><strong><span
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">promotion
                              et l'avenir du radioamateurisme.</span></strong><span>&nbsp;</span>Ils
                          expliquerons leur position sur la r&eacute;forme des
                          examens radioamateurs propos&eacute;e par l'URC.<span>&nbsp;</span></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">&Eacute; assim em Fran&ccedil;a e, em
                        Portugal, n&atilde;o ser&aacute; este o caminho?</p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">As (poucas) contribui&ccedil;&otilde;es que
                        surgem neste Cluster vindas, quase sempre dos
                        mesmos, que conquistam a ades&atilde;o de meia d&uacute;zia de
                        colegas (geralmente, n&atilde;o s&atilde;o mais&#8230;), porque os
                        outros SEIS MIL n&atilde;o frequentam este Cluster, ou
                        n&atilde;o est&atilde;o de acordo, ou n&atilde;o se querem expor
                        (porque, normalmente, a discuss&atilde;o de
                        determinados assuntos descamba no ataque pessoal
                        em vez da sadia discuss&atilde;o de ideias e procura de
                        consensos) essas contribui&ccedil;&otilde;es, dizia, acabam
                        sempre no encerramento do t&oacute;pico, de emerg&ecirc;ncia.</p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">N&atilde;o se discutirem os assuntos
                        de interesse geral dos radioamadores, &#8220;s&oacute; faz o
                        jogo&#8221; de quem prop&ocirc;s/insistiu no actual
                        regulamento e a quem interessa a situa&ccedil;&atilde;o do
                        radioamadorismo, em Portugal e das associa&ccedil;&otilde;es e
                        individuais que contribu&iacute;ram com o seu sil&ecirc;ncio
                        (c&uacute;mplice).</p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">Na minha opini&atilde;o n&atilde;o se deve
                        culpar uma associa&ccedil;&atilde;o, que representa uma
                        minoria dos radioamadores, que faz valer a sua
                        posi&ccedil;&atilde;o e dita as regras do jogo.</p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">Os respons&aacute;veis pelo actual
                        regulamento s&atilde;o a MAIORIA que, com o seu
                        sil&ecirc;ncio, deixarem que fossem os outros a
                        decidir o que seria o radioamadorismo em
                        Portugal. Enquanto deixarmos, as regras
                        continuar&atilde;o a ser ditadas por uma minoria
                        activa!</p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">O dia em que nos dispusermos,
                        O RADIOAMADORISMO, EM PORTUGAL, SER&Aacute; O QUE OS
                        RADIOAMADORES QUISEREM QUE SEJA!</p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">Com peti&ccedil;&otilde;es ou exposi&ccedil;&otilde;es
                        aos pol&iacute;ticos, j&aacute; se viu que n&atilde;o vamos l&aacute; e, a
                        MAIORIA est&aacute; servida!</p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>73 from</span></b></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Jos&eacute; Machado -
                            CT1BAT</span></b></p>
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