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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Quando quiser "bater-se", de igual para
      igual, em CW, diga!<br>
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      Em 03-08-2013 9:49, Lu&iacute;s Garcia Filipe escreveu:<br>
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                                  <div>Sem d&uacute;vida, embora n&atilde;o sejam
                                    tantos assim a usar v&aacute;lvulas, devido
                                    ao elevado custo, e a sua constante
                                    manuten&ccedil;&atilde;o.<br>
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                                  Eu uso v&aacute;lvulas num amplificador de
                                  som, pelos motivos que referiu,
                                  simplesmente a sua pureza &eacute;,
                                  indiscut&iacute;vel, assim como o vinil,
                                  entre outros.<br>
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                                A tecnologia dos Mosfet, ou Fet, ainda
                                tem muito para dar.<br>
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                              Vamos ver onde a evolu&ccedil;&atilde;o os vai levar.<br>
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                            N&atilde;o h&aacute; muito tempo o ultimo grito era o
                            trans&iacute;stor bipolar. Hoje, quase
                            ultrapassado. Amanha tamb&eacute;m acredito que o
                            Mosfet tamb&eacute;m seja ultrapassado.<br>
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                          Assim &eacute; o progresso. Tenho ali um r&aacute;dio
                          herdado do meu av&ocirc; a v&aacute;lvulas, acredite que
                          todos os dias olho para ele, de forma a
                          indagar qual ser&aacute; o dia em que lhe meto as
                          m&atilde;os...<br>
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                        Quanto ao CW, desactualizado, nunca!<br>
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                      Para quem ainda n&atilde;o deu o passo de saber escut&aacute;-lo
                      e emiti-lo, existem 2 aplica&ccedil;&otilde;es bastante
                      interessantes que se podem instalar num sistema
                      android, que s&atilde;o muito funcionais.<br>
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                    Esta aplica&ccedil;&atilde;o serve para descodificar CW atrav&eacute;s do
                    &aacute;udio do microfone:<br>
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                  <div>(funciona muito bem)<br>
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                  A seguinte serve para fazer CW luminoso entre dois
                  androids com c&acirc;mara e flash&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (j&aacute; consegui
                  distancias consider&aacute;veis)<br>
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                A seguinte serve para ir tentando aprender CW:<br>
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              A seguinte serve para rastrear sat&eacute;lites e saber a
              previs&atilde;o, caminho , etc e o tipo de sat&eacute;lite (de amador
              inclusive) :<br>
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            E finalmente a seguinte serve para criar mapas de propaga&ccedil;&atilde;o
            at&eacute; 100 km, excelentes para saber coberturas de V e U :<br>
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            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cloudrf.android.signal">https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cloudrf.android.signal</a><br>
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          Espero, um dia, ser mais um r&aacute;dio-amador Portugu&ecirc;s a surgir
          nos spots de CW.<br>
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        Obrigado Manuel<br>
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                                  <div>CR7AEL<br>
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                                    <div class="gmail_quote">No dia 2 de
                                      Agosto de 2013 &agrave;s 22:28, manel nor
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                                      escreveu:<br>
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                                          <div>Colega Lu&iacute;s Filipe, os
                                            meus melhores 73. Se nos
                                            actuais exames versam sobre
                                            mosfets, acontece o
                                            seguinte: quem deu v&aacute;lvulas,
                                            h&aacute; muito tempo, n&atilde;o teve
                                            outro rem&eacute;dio&nbsp;sen&atilde;o
                                            acompanhar as novas
                                            tecnologias e saberem algo
                                            sobre semicondu-tores&nbsp;mas,
                                            de hoje em dia, quem domina
                                            os tais mosfets mada sabe de
                                            v&aacute;lvulas, muito poucos !, e,
                                            aten&ccedil;&atilde;o : as v&aacute;lvulas ainda
                                            s&atilde;o usadas, veja quantas
                                            esta&ccedil;&otilde;es&nbsp;de r&aacute;diodifus&atilde;o
                                            existem a funcionar com
                                            mosfets, as v&aacute;lvulas est&atilde;o
                                            l&aacute; assim como existem,ainda,
                                            milhares e milhares de
                                            equipamentos de amador&nbsp;a
                                            v&aacute;lvulas, bem como
                                            muit&iacute;ssimos amplificadores
                                            de a&uacute;dio a v&aacute;lvulas, muito
                                            apreciado pelos audi&oacute;filos.
                                            Um bom amplificador de BF a
                                            v&aacute;lvulas custa uma pipa de
                                            massa e o som caracter&iacute;stico
                                            da v&aacute;lvula &eacute; outra loi&ccedil;a ...
                                            n&atilde;o &eacute; cal&ccedil;ado de feira !. a
                                            resposta din&acirc;mica da v&aacute;lvula
                                            &eacute; diferente do semicondutor.
                                            Se nos actuais exames n&atilde;o
                                            versam sobre
                                            v&aacute;lvulas...errado, erro
                                            crasso, na minha modesta
                                            opini&atilde;o claro.</div>
                                          <div>Moral desta "hist&oacute;ria", a
                                            v&aacute;lvula ainda n&atilde;o acabou,
                                            assim como tamb&eacute;m, por
                                            analogia, n&atilde;o acabou o CW.</div>
                                          <div>Com os meus&nbsp;melhores
                                            cumprimentos,</div>
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                                            ct1uw/ct0158&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; manuel
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                                          <div class="gmail_quote">Em 2
                                            de agosto de 2013 21:22,
                                            Lu&iacute;s Garcia Filipe <span
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                                                          <div>O Afonso,
                                                          olhe que nos
                                                          testes j&aacute; n&atilde;o
                                                          perguntam
                                                          pelas
                                                          v&aacute;lvulas,
                                                          perguntam
                                                          antes pelos
                                                          Mosfets,
                                                          portanto veja
                                                          l&aacute;...<br>
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                                                          &Oacute; colega&nbsp;
                                                          Pedro,
                                                          parab&eacute;ns, fico
                                                          feliz que
                                                          tenha
                                                          conseguido
                                                          tudo aquilo
                                                          pelo qual
                                                          luta.<br>
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                                                          Infelizmente
                                                          nem todos
                                                          temos as
                                                          mesmas
                                                          capacidades, e
                                                          olhe, l&aacute; temos
                                                          de ir andando
                                                          e tentando.<br>
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                                                          Claro que o
                                                          hobbie chamado
                                                          r&aacute;dio-amadorismo
                                                          &eacute; constitu&iacute;do
                                                          por tudo o que
                                                          referiu, mas
                                                          muito mais
                                                          orientado para
                                                          outras &aacute;reas
                                                          como
                                                          propaga&ccedil;&atilde;o,
                                                          RF,
                                                          comportamentos
                                                          do elemento
                                                          radiante e
                                                          atmosf&eacute;ricos,
                                                          travar
                                                          amizades e
                                                          multi-culturalismo
                                                          mundial, do
                                                          que alguma
                                                          electr&oacute;nica
                                                          mais aplicada,
                                                          concorda?<br>
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                                                          Tamb&eacute;m n&atilde;o lhe
                                                          fica bem
                                                          criticar de
                                                          forma t&atilde;o feia
                                                          outras
                                                          frequ&ecirc;ncias
                                                          que n&atilde;o as do
                                                          r&aacute;dio-amadorismo.
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                                                          Quem sabe,
                                                          talvez o
                                                          pr&oacute;ximo
                                                          r&aacute;dio-astr&oacute;nomo
                                                          de revelo
                                                          internacional
                                                          possa vir do
                                                          PMR, n&atilde;o acha?<br>
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                                                          No mundo do
                                                          r&aacute;dio-amadorismo
                                                          &aacute; lugar para
                                                          todos, mesmo o
                                                          que n&atilde;o s&atilde;o
                                                          barras.<br>
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                                                          Importante
                                                          mesmo era
                                                          partilhar-se
                                                          mais e viver
                                                          mais e sorrir
                                                          mais do que
                                                          atentar mais
                                                          nas diferen&ccedil;as
                                                          e distin&ccedil;&otilde;es.<br>
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                                                        Mas isto sou eu
                                                        e a minha
                                                        foleira opini&atilde;o.<br>
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                                                      Ainda bem que
                                                      pouca gente me d&aacute;
                                                      cr&eacute;dito, porque se
                                                      o mundo fosse como
                                                      eu gostasse de o
                                                      ver, haveria mais
                                                      igualdade e menos
                                                      arrog&acirc;ncia.<br>
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                                                    Que pesadelo seria,
                                                    era o mesmo que
                                                    deixar-mos de ser
                                                    Portugueses.<br>
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                                                  Um forte abra&ccedil;o
                                                  colega, que a sorte o
                                                  proteja sempre.<br>
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                                                  73, <br>
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                                                          dia 2 de
                                                          Agosto de 2013
                                                          &agrave;s 21:00,
                                                          Afonso Marques
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                                                          parab&eacute;ns
                                                          colega Pedro
                                                          Madeira pelo
                                                          seu
                                                          empreendorismo
                                                          &nbsp; e dedica&ccedil;&atilde;o
                                                          ao hobby que
                                                          escolheu . De
                                                          facto
                                                          assimilou
                                                          muito bem &nbsp;o
                                                          que &eacute; a sua
                                                          &nbsp;ess&ecirc;ncia. Ser
                                                          radioamador &eacute;
                                                          isso mesmo , o
                                                          resto s&atilde;o
                                                          divaga&ccedil;&otilde;es e
                                                          facilitismos ,
                                                          apan&aacute;gios do
                                                          nosso povo . E
                                                          note que nem
                                                          todos os
                                                          antigos s&atilde;o "
                                                          velhos do
                                                          Restelo " .
                                                          Tamb&eacute;m tiveram
                                                          que " pedalar
                                                          " com as
                                                          exig&ecirc;ncias da
                                                          &eacute;poca . Tudo &eacute;
                                                          relativo .
                                                          Ouvem-se e
                                                          v&ecirc;em-se
                                                          &nbsp;muitos
                                                          escritos sobre
                                                          &nbsp;" ...se os de
                                                          antigamente
                                                          tivessem que
                                                          fazer agora
                                                          exame , eu
                                                          queria ver ...
                                                          " &nbsp; Por mim ,
                                                          n&atilde;o teria
                                                          qualquer
                                                          problema em
                                                          refrescar os
                                                          conhecimentos
                                                          , pelos outros
                                                          n&atilde;o falo .
                                                          Muito boa
                                                          gente n&atilde;o sabe
                                                          nada da
                                                          tecnologia das
                                                          v&aacute;lvulas e
                                                          elas continuam
                                                          a usar-se ...<br>
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                                                          73<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          CT1RH<br>
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                                    Cumprimentos;<br>
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                                    Lu&iacute;s Filipe Garcia S.
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:CLUSTER@radio-amador.net">CLUSTER@radio-amador.net</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://radio-amador.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cluster">http://radio-amador.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cluster</a>
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