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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Boa noite colega Luis,<br>
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      Obrigado por responder foi muito elucidativo, realmente aprendi
      algo que n&atilde;o sabia, obrigado.<br>
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      Um bom fim de semana e boas emiss&otilde;es em ROS e WSPR ;)<br>
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      Paulo Santos, CT4DK<br>
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      Em 04/08/2013 12:52, Lu&iacute;s Garcia Filipe escreveu:<br>
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                        <div>Boa tarde.<br>
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                        Isso &eacute; uma das interpreta&ccedil;&otilde;es que se pode fazer
                        de facto, mas esta parte da Lei, ou &eacute; delineada
                        ou fazer a sua transposi&ccedil;&atilde;o a uma recomenda&ccedil;&atilde;o
                        deixa de ter car&aacute;cter vinculativo, e abre portas
                        a interpreta&ccedil;&otilde;es diferentes jur&iacute;dicas. <br>
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                      Todos os tr&acirc;mites da Lei dever&atilde;o ser definidos no
                      que trata a direitos e deveres, pois n&atilde;o se pode
                      remeter a recomenda&ccedil;&otilde;es que na pratica n&atilde;o s&atilde;o
                      vinculativas e dependem da vontade de adapta&ccedil;&atilde;o
                      dos pa&iacute;ses. <br>
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                      "<i>recomenda&ccedil;&atilde;o &eacute; transposta para a Lei", n&atilde;o sei
                        quem lhe ensinou isso, s&oacute; lhe posso dizer que
                        essa afirma&ccedil;&atilde;o em tribunal d&aacute; pano para mangas,
                        at&eacute; para anula&ccedil;&atilde;o do caso se for preciso</i><i>.
                        O legislador deveria, indicado com precis&atilde;o e
                        n&atilde;o remeter para uma recomenda&ccedil;&atilde;o internacional,
                        que n&atilde;o tem um peso vinculativo na forma como
                        est&aacute; apresentada.<br>
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                    <i>Quanto aos modos digitais, em RTTY concordo com o
                      que disse, porque o RTTY al&eacute;m de anacr&oacute;nico e nada
                      eficiente, vai depender do artista, ou seja,
                      muitas vezes escuto RTTY a ser usada de uma forma
                      grotesca, fora das recomenda&ccedil;&otilde;es do espectro e
                      cheia de esp&uacute;rias que chega a ultrapassar mais do
                      que o dobro dos hertzs destinados para o efeito,
                      atrav&eacute;s das esp&uacute;rias do &aacute;udio de saida nada
                      regulado. ISTO DEVE-SE &Aacute; EXCESSIVA POTENCIA MUITAS
                      VEZES, FAZER RTTY COM MAIS DE 1 KW!!!<br>
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                  <i>Quanto ao PSk31, permita-lhe chamar a aten&ccedil;&atilde;o que,
                    n&atilde;o interfere na voz devido ao pequeno espectro que
                    usa e devido &aacute; t&eacute;cnica exigida para o mesmo em
                    pot&ecirc;ncia (com mais de 50 a 100 watts em psk31, a
                    possibilidade de distorcer o sinal &eacute; garantida, por
                    muito bem que se regule o &aacute;udio de sa&iacute;da ou a sua
                    atenua&ccedil;&atilde;o).<br>
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                <i>Alias, a voz &eacute; que poder&aacute; perturbar o psk31.<br>
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                  "</i><i>...caso contrario isto era a plena
                  anarquia...". O colega Paulo joga muito em absolutos e
                  previs&otilde;es apocal&iacute;pticas.<br>
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                  N&atilde;o fosse uma das premissas da transmiss&atilde;o ter o
                  cuidado de n&atilde;o estar ningu&eacute;m em frequ&ecirc;ncia antes de
                  iniciar a transmiss&atilde;o.&nbsp; Diz tamb&eacute;m a lei que o
                  r&aacute;dio-amador dever&aacute; ser cortez, alem de outras
                  dicotomias &eacute;ticas para n&atilde;o atropelar outras
                  transmiss&otilde;es.<br>
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              <i>O Paulo esquece tamb&eacute;m a premissa principal da <u><b>maioria
                    dos modos digitais</b>:</u> A sua efici&ecirc;ncia e pouca
                ocupa&ccedil;&atilde;o de espectro (nem todos), resist&ecirc;ncia ao fade,
                qrm qrn, distor&ccedil;&otilde;es do encaminhamento e distor&ccedil;&otilde;es
                magn&eacute;ticas.<br>
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            <i>Practicar a maioria dos modos digitais gen&eacute;ricos nos
              watts recomendados pelos criadores, pouco ou nada
              perturbaria os qsos em voz.&nbsp; <br>
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              J&aacute; o contr&aacute;rio...<br>
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          <i>Espero que tenha aprendido algo. 73<br>
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        <i>CR7AEL<br>
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                        <div class="gmail_quote">No dia 4 de Agosto de
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                              <div>Bom dia colega Luis,<br>
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                                Os meus coment&aacute;rios em linha com o seu
                                texto.<br>
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                                Paulo Santos, CT4DK<br>
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                                                      H&aacute; pior. Segundo
                                                      as recomenda&ccedil;&otilde;es
                                                      nos 80 metros
                                                      deveria ser LSB e
                                                      j&aacute; apanhei malta
                                                      em USB a fazer
                                                      testes.<br>
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                                                    Pois, s&atilde;o
                                                    recomenda&ccedil;&otilde;es, n&atilde;o
                                                    significa que n&atilde;o se
                                                    possa e tal, certo &eacute;
                                                    que as recomenda&ccedil;&otilde;es
                                                    para alguns n&atilde;o s&atilde;o
                                                    imperativas, para
                                                    outros s&atilde;o uma
                                                    obriga&ccedil;&atilde;o.<br>
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                                                  A lei tal como est&aacute;
                                                  para os CS7 e o
                                                  espectro onde podem
                                                  fazer TX, segundo as
                                                  recomenda&ccedil;&otilde;es n&atilde;o
                                                  abrange faixa de modos
                                                  digitais, o certo &eacute;
                                                  que a Lei n&atilde;o diz de
                                                  forma aberta que
                                                  fulano X e Y n&atilde;o
                                                  possam efectuar qso em
                                                  digital numa faixa de
                                                  frequ&ecirc;ncia diferentes
                                                  das recomendadas.<br>
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                                                A Anacom neste caso
                                                limita-se a afirmar,
                                                que, em frequ&ecirc;ncia de
                                                TX, devem seguir-se as
                                                recomenda&ccedil;&otilde;es. Mas as
                                                recomenda&ccedil;&otilde;es, por sua
                                                vez, s&atilde;o isso,
                                                recomenda&ccedil;&otilde;es, doutro
                                                modo devia ler-se
                                                OBRIGA&Ccedil;&Otilde;ES.<br>
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                              <i>Negativo, a partir de o momento em que
                                o legislador transp&otilde;e para uma lei uma
                                recomenda&ccedil;&atilde;o a mesma deixa de ser
                                recomenda&ccedil;&atilde;o e passa a ter for&ccedil;a de Lei,
                                logo</i><i><br>
                              </i><i>quando a Anacom diz no QNAF que
                                devemos seguir a recomenda&ccedil;&atilde;o da IARU
                                quanto ao plano de bandas e modos essa
                                mesma recomenda&ccedil;&atilde;o passa a ser Lei e
                                temos</i><i><br>
                              </i><i>de a cumprir.</i><br>
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                                              Acredito que estas
                                              recomenda&ccedil;&otilde;es est&atilde;o
                                              juridicamente desta forma,
                                              porque, n&atilde;o pode haver uma
                                              total nega&ccedil;&atilde;o que 2 ou 3
                                              colegas possam a operar
                                              num modo diferente do
                                              recomendado e da faixa
                                              recomendada, uma vez que
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                                              informa que se pode operar
                                              na faixa de x a y, e que
                                              ao Amador &eacute; reconhecido o
                                              direito de operar em
                                              diferentes modos de
                                              modula&ccedil;&atilde;o.<br>
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                              <i>Deixa de o ser a partir do momento que
                                a recomenda&ccedil;&atilde;o &eacute; transposta para a Lei.</i><i><br>
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                                            Estas recomenda&ccedil;&otilde;es est&atilde;o
                                            desta forma para criar
                                            alguma harmonia, mas se 2
                                            colegas por exemplo
                                            estiverem em digitais fora
                                            da recomenda&ccedil;&atilde;o n&atilde;o pode ser
                                            considerado ilegal uma vez
                                            que a lei transmite ao
                                            radio-amador o direito de
                                            operar nas suas faixas
                                            destinadas nos diferentes
                                            modos de modula&ccedil;&atilde;o.<br>
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                                            Acredito n&atilde;o se tratar de um
                                            conflito na Lei, uma vez que
                                            o direito a TX em modos
                                            diferentes &eacute; um direito
                                            esclarecido e finito na sua
                                            descri&ccedil;&atilde;o, enquanto as
                                            recomenda&ccedil;&otilde;es t&ecirc;m um peso
                                            jur&iacute;dico diferente, que n&atilde;o
                                            tem o mesmo efeito
                                            vinculativo.<br>
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                                        Acho que isto j&aacute; foi discutido
                                        aqui, mas de facto uma
                                        recomenda&ccedil;&atilde;o &eacute; isso que &eacute;,
                                        porque de outra forma teria de
                                        ser redactada de forma
                                        diferente.<br>
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                                      Estas recomenda&ccedil;&otilde;es servem para
                                      criar alguma harmonia, mas n&atilde;o
                                      deveria impedir um CS7 de emitir
                                      em digitais noutra frequ&ecirc;ncia em
                                      que tamb&eacute;m esteja autorizado por
                                      direito, para alem das
                                      recomendadas internacionalmente.<br>
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                              <i>Decerto o colega Luis n&atilde;o gostava nada
                                de por exemplo estar numa faixa dedicada
                                a fonia e lhe aparecesse outro colega a
                                fazer PSK31 ou RTTY</i><i> em cima do
                                seu QSO</i><i><br>
                              </i><i>por isso mesmo existe os planos de
                                banda com os segmentos onde se pode
                                fazer os diversos modos caso contrario
                                isto era a plena anarquia.</i><i><br>
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                                    <div>Poder&atilde;o discordar, mas qualquer
                                      an&aacute;lise jur&iacute;dica sobre o decreto
                                      Lei e posteriormente a compara&ccedil;&atilde;o
                                      com as recomenda&ccedil;&otilde;es pode ser
                                      encontrado este conflito, ou esta
                                      indefini&ccedil;&atilde;o, que pode ser
                                      interpretada de v&aacute;rias formas, e
                                      n&atilde;o s&oacute; de uma.<br>
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                                    <div>Uma coisa &eacute; estar escrito que
                                      n&atilde;o se pode trabalhar e estar
                                      alcoolizado, outra coisa &eacute;
                                      informar que n&atilde;o se recomenda a
                                      ingest&atilde;o de conte&uacute;do alco&oacute;lico
                                      quando em servi&ccedil;o laboral hehehe<br>
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                                    S&oacute; tenho de agradecer &aacute; Arla e
                                    outros colegas o esfor&ccedil;o que fizeram
                                    recentemente para ser aumentado
                                    espectro das bandas onde um CS7 pode
                                    operar.<br>
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