Boa tarde Luis. <br><br>Tenho uma gama de toroides FT xxx pelo que poderei ter algum que seja o que possas precisar para os testes.<br>Alguns FT 140-43, FT 140-44 e semelhantes. T200 não tenho.<br><br>73 de Hugo Barata CT2HMX <br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Fernando Dinis Silva <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scacem@gmail.com" target="_blank">scacem@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div>Amigo Luis pois eu não o posso ajudar pois não tenho esse material.</div><div>Mas pelo que sei o teu pai CT1EN tinha muito material que poderias aproveitar digo eu, as antenas que ele deixou por lá na torre e que tu sabes quais são, são umas antenas boas necessitam é de manutenção e digo-te que ficavas com uma boa antena melhor do que essas que tu queres fazer.</div>
<div>Um abraço</div><div>CT1DZ</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div>Fernando Dinis Silva</div></font></span></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
2013/7/21 Luis Valadas <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:valadas.luis@gmail.com" target="_blank">valadas.luis@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Boas noite a todos</div><div>Em primeiro lugar queria explicar o porquê de ter utilizado este email para dirigir-me a todos</div>
<div>Bom , eu queria perguntar se alguem tem e que possa dispensar :</div>
<div>- toroide 140-43</div><div>-toroide T200-2</div><div>- toroide T200-6</div><div>- alguns metros de fio de 1mm esmaltado</div><div>Devem estar a pensar que vou fazer um balum pelo menos de 9:1, de facto tem razao, queria fazer umas antemas , e sei que existe a venda baluns ja feitos mas confesso que gostava de eu os fazer, quanto a comprar no ebay ou no estrangeiro tenho alguma dificuldade em faze-lo por isso peço a alguem que tenha e que possa dispensar, claro pagando o justo valor do mesmo material e os devidos portes</div>
<div>73</div><div>CT1DTE</div><div>Luis Valadas</div><div> </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/7/18 João Costa > CT1FBF <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ct1fbf@gmail.com" target="_blank">ct1fbf@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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<div align="justify">Carrying on from my previous blog <a href="http://www.expeditioncoppelia.com/2010/10/engineers-antennas-hf-ssb.html" target="_blank"><font color="#888888">on engineers antennas HF and SSB</font></a>, in this second part I will more fully describe our emergency antenna setup. </div>
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<div align="justify">I draw your attention to a very useful set of resources available free on the internet:</div>
<div align="justify"><a href="http://frrl.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/usmc-antenna-hb.pdf" target="_blank"><font color="#888888">Field Antenna Handbook - US Marine Corps</font></a></div>
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<div align="justify"><a href="http://hilltoparmyradios.com/usmc-radio-ops-hdbk.pdf" target="_blank"><font color="#888888">Radio Operators Handbook - US Marine Corps</font></a></div>
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<div align="justify">In the previous post I worked out the length of antenna for a given frequency that would provide the best chance of effective communication. This certainly does not mean for a given frequency if the length is different you can not communicate, it just means that there is more chance at the lengths specified. </div>
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<div align="justify"><u>Situation one – the antenna is broken, but the tuner is intact. </u></div>
<div align="justify">Cut a new antenna from a piece of wire of a length greater than 7m as specified for our ICOM tuner. </div>
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<div align="justify">One end of the antenna would need to be lifted towards the sky, if the mast or part of it is still standing the wire could be hoisted on it, otherwise some other pole, like the prod, kite pole or boom could be used. The resulting antenna would have the characteristics of this sloping wire antenna show below:</div>
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<div align="justify"><a href="http://lh6.ggpht.com/_rK1oaS0yOa8/TNNujQUNbNI/AAAAAAAAFTc/kuMS4ZHLEUg/s1600-h/sloping%20wire%5B2%5D.png" target="_blank"><font color="#29303b"></font><img src="" style="border:0px currentColor;margin-right:auto;margin-left:auto;float:none;display:block" title="sloping wire" alt="sloping wire" height="259" border="0" width="343"></a></div>
<div align="justify">Sloping Wire – source: US Marine Corps (1991) “<i>Field Antenna Handbook</i>” pg 4-34</div>
<div align="justify"><u>Situation two – the antenna is broken, the tuner is broken</u></div>
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<div align="justify">This is the situation where having the antenna length appropriate for the frequency you want to transmit of is important. Normally the tuner, tunes between length suitable for the frequency and the actual antenna length using a series of capacitors and inductors. Without a tuner each time you change frequency, to optimise the chance of being able to communicate the length of the antenna must be changed. </div>
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<div align="justify">The length of antennas required for international emergency frequency range between 32.6m for 2182 Hz to 11.6m for 6125Hz. </div>
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<div align="justify">32.6m is greater than distance between the back of Coppelia and the mast head. Therefore the sloping wire arrangement used above can not be used. Moreover, it is likely that if we have broken the tuner, we might have suffered damage to the mast, and therefore we would not even be able to make a 11.6m sloping antenna. </div>
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<div align="justify">The answer is a different sort of antenna, a vertical half rhombic antenna. </div>
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<div align="justify">Vertical half rhombic antenna – source: US Marine Corps (1991) “<i>Field Antenna Handbook</i>” pg 4-37</div>
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<div align="justify">The plan onboard would be to make some sort of pole in the middle of the boat. A shielded cable would then be run from the radio to the back of the boat, and a second wire from the ground plate to the same location. A piece of wire equal to the length of antenna required for the frequency to be used would then be attached to these wires, and hoisted aloft in the middle, then fastened at the bow. The resulting antenna setup would form a vertical half rhombic antenna. </div>
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<div> <br> Get a piece of RG-58 coax and using the chart below, strip the outer jacket of the coax to that appropriate length, depending on the band you choose to work. Once the outer covering has been stripped, carefully open the copper braid near the bottom of where you stripped the outer jacket. Once the braid is open, carefully bend the center conductor over and pull it out of the hole you opened in the copper braid. Once you have the center conductor pulled free, straighten it and either form a loop at the top end for hanging, or solder on a terminal lug. Remember, the antenna length is measured from the very end of the look or terminal lug, and they do add length to your antenna. Trim as necessary.</div>
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<div>Fontes: <font size="1">Expedition Coppelia</font> e <font color="#1122cc">WCERC <b>VHF UHF Emergency Antennas</b> </font></div>
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