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    Boa noite,<br>
    <br>
    Na pr&aacute;tica &eacute; um filtro RC passa baixo aplicado junto ao consumidor
    da energia, quando ocorre um pico de corrente a resist&ecirc;ncia entre a
    fonte de energia e o consumidor formada pelos cabos ir&aacute; provocar uma
    queda de tens&atilde;o proporcional &agrave; corrente e &agrave; resist&ecirc;ncia dos fios (
    U=RI ), no entanto, como o condensador se op&otilde;e a mudan&ccedil;as bruscas da
    tens&atilde;o aos seus terminais, ir&aacute; temporariamente ser ele a fornecer
    parte da corrente pretendida (e descarregar parcialmente).<br>
    Quando lhe deixar de ser exigida corrente, ir&aacute; carregar de novo a
    partir da fonte.<br>
    <br>
    Na pratica o consumidor da energia n&atilde;o ter&aacute; flutua&ccedil;&otilde;es de tens&atilde;o t&atilde;o
    grandes com as que teria se n&atilde;o estivesse l&aacute; este LPF.<br>
    <br>
    Para efeito similar eu tenho um par de baterias de 7Ah junto ao
    r&aacute;dio nas traseiras do autom&oacute;vel para compensar o facto de n&atilde;o ter
    cabos de sec&ccedil;&atilde;o elevada at&eacute; &agrave; bateria.<br>
    Um destes dias tenho de analisar bem os "pr&oacute;s e contras" das duas
    solu&ccedil;&otilde;es para ver se a vossa n&atilde;o ser&aacute; melhor ...<br>
    Neste momento pesa mais o facto de eu conseguir muitas baterias
    destas com "meio uso" por custo negativo (sim, se n&atilde;o ficasse com
    algumas delas ainda teria o trabalho de as ir levar ao centro de
    reciclagem).<br>
    <br>
    73!<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05-02-2013 19:15, Fernando Coutada
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAGL_irsjzYivKtE9cU7EZ2nFykOiujpGxKThwdhWHx9gOkD+aw@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">Boas
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div style="">Eu estou a usar na mota e&nbsp;tamb&eacute;m&nbsp;uso na fonte que
          liga aos r&aacute;dios, pois serve de pulm&atilde;o no pico inicial.</div>
        <div style="">73</div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">
          No dia 5 de Fevereiro de 2013 &agrave;36 18:57, Manuel Jesus <span
            dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:mojesus@pedradaciencia.com" target="_blank">mojesus@pedradaciencia.com</a>&gt;</span>
          escreveu:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                    lang="PT">J&aacute; agora pergunto se algum colega j&aacute; usou
                    estes super- condensadores em paralelo com uma
                    bateria de alta amperagem, digamos de 100 amperes?</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                    lang="PT">&nbsp;</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                    lang="PT">Em descarga de 7 amperes em cont&iacute;nuo,
                    quanto tempo &eacute; que levar&aacute; a descarregar um bicho
                    destes a&iacute; de uns 20 Farads?</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                    lang="PT">&nbsp;</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                    lang="PT">Obrigado.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                    lang="PT">73.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                    lang="PT">CT1AXZ</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                    lang="PT">Manuel Jesus</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                    lang="PT"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://www.sitesmaisuteis.pt"
                      target="_blank">www.sitesmaisuteis.pt</a></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                    lang="PT">&nbsp;</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                    lang="PT">&nbsp;</span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext"
                          lang="PT">De:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext"
                        lang="PT"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net"
                          target="_blank">cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net</a>
                        [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net"
                          target="_blank">cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net</a>]
                        <b>Em nome de </b>Rui Martins<br>
                        <b>Enviada:</b> ter&ccedil;a-feira, 5 de Fevereiro de
                        2013 12:12<br>
                        <b>Para:</b> 'Pedro Ribeiro'; 'Resumo Noticioso
                        ARLA/CLUSTER'<br>
                        <b>Assunto:</b> RE: ARLA/CLUSTER: Re: A " super
                        bateria "</span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                    lang="PT">Pedro,</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal">
                  <span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                    lang="PT">&nbsp;</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                    lang="PT">Pe&ccedil;o desculpa pelo atraso na resposta mas
                    n&atilde;o estive nos &uacute;ltimos dias com muita aten&ccedil;&atilde;o ao
                    mail por raz&otilde;es que s&oacute; a raz&atilde;o conhece.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                    lang="PT">Relembro que no inicio apenas se falou na
                    utiliza&ccedil;&atilde;o de tal monstro que para o efeito resultou
                    na aplica&ccedil;&atilde;o do lhe deu (a Mota).</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                    lang="PT">Este condensadores s&atilde;o normalmente usados
                    em instala&ccedil;&otilde;es car &aacute;udio e est&atilde;o normalmente sempre
                    em carga e nesse caso o problema &eacute; outro.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                    lang="PT">Dependendo da sua necessidade claro que &aacute;
                    que ter em conta o pico de tens&atilde;o necess&aacute;rio para
                    carregar tal bicho o que est&aacute; exemplificado nos
                    v&iacute;deos a forma mais simples.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                    lang="PT">Pode sempre utilizar um delayed &nbsp;start e
                    sei que n&atilde;o ter&aacute; qualquer dificuldade em o fazer.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                    lang="PT">&nbsp;</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                    lang="PT">73 de CT1EBH</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                    lang="PT">Rui Martins</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                    lang="PT">&nbsp;</span></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext"
                          lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext"
                        lang="EN-US"> Pedro Ribeiro [<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:ct7abp@gmail.com" target="_blank">mailto:ct7abp@gmail.com</a>]
                        <br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> 30 de janeiro de 2013 10:40<br>
                        <b>To:</b> Resumo Noticioso ARLA/CLUSTER<br>
                        <b>Cc:</b> Rui Martins<br>
                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: ARLA/CLUSTER: Re: A " super
                        bateria "</span></p>
                  </div>
                </div>
                <p class="MsoNormal">
                  <span lang="PT">&nbsp;</span></p>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT">Bom dia,<br>
                      <br>
                      Dada a corrente que imagino uma coisa dessas
                      exigir no momento da carga inicial, n&atilde;o haver&aacute;
                      cuidados especiais a ter com o uso de algum
                      circuito que limite a corrente durante a carga
                      inicial?<br>
                      <br>
                      73!<br>
                      <br>
                      On 30-01-2013 09:37, Rui Martins wrote:</span></p>
                </div>
                <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                      lang="PT">Boas,</span><span lang="PT"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                      lang="PT">&nbsp;</span><span lang="PT"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                      lang="PT">Encontram esses condensadores com
                      facilidade nas boas lojas de som para carros.</span><span
                      lang="PT"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                      lang="PT"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/product_details.aspx?itemid=108310"
                        target="_blank">http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/product_details.aspx?itemid=108310</a></span><span
                      lang="PT"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                      lang="PT"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DzKWdctDUc"
                        target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DzKWdctDUc</a></span><span
                      lang="PT"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                      lang="PT"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://portocity.olx.pt/vendo-condensador-de-som-para-carro-iid-434172211"
                        target="_blank">http://portocity.olx.pt/vendo-condensador-de-som-para-carro-iid-434172211</a></span><span
                      lang="PT"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                      lang="PT"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://coimbracity.olx.pt/world-tuning-condensador-2-farads-iid-373116682"
                        target="_blank">http://coimbracity.olx.pt/world-tuning-condensador-2-farads-iid-373116682</a></span><span
                      lang="PT"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                      lang="PT"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://setubalcity.olx.pt/condensador-rodek-10-farad-iid-434408837"
                        target="_blank">http://setubalcity.olx.pt/condensador-rodek-10-farad-iid-434408837</a></span><span
                      lang="PT"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                      lang="PT">&nbsp;</span><span lang="PT"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                      lang="PT">Ficam aqui alguns exemplos e alguns
                      suportam at&eacute; 30V pico mas a maioria &eacute; de 16v e
                      tudo depende do que se pretender gastar.</span><span
                      lang="PT"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                      lang="PT">O ultimo link por exemplo &eacute; 10 farads 16
                      volts.</span><span lang="PT"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                      lang="PT">&nbsp;</span><span lang="PT"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                      lang="PT">CT1EBH</span><span lang="PT"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                      lang="PT">&nbsp;</span><span lang="PT"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                      lang="PT">&nbsp;</span><span lang="PT"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                      lang="PT">&nbsp;</span><span lang="PT"></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"
                            lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"
                          lang="EN-US"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net"
                            target="_blank">cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net</a>
                          [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net"
                            target="_blank">mailto:cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net</a>]
                          <b>On Behalf Of </b>Manuel Artur Rodrigues<br>
                          <b>Sent:</b> 28 de janeiro de 2013 08:58<br>
                          <b>To:</b> Resumo Noticioso ARLA/CLUSTER<br>
                          <b>Subject:</b> RE: ARLA/CLUSTER: Re: A "
                          super bateria "</span><span lang="PT"></span></p>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">
                    <span lang="PT">&nbsp;</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                      lang="PT">Bom dia. </span><span lang="PT"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                      lang="PT">Eu bem me parecia que essa moto n&atilde;o
                      tinha estrutura f&iacute;sica para aguentar com um
                      condensador de 1 Farady</span><span lang="PT"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                      lang="PT">L&aacute; 100.000 &micro;F a 25 V j&aacute; &eacute; outra coisa.</span><span
                      lang="PT"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">
                    <span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                      lang="PT">&nbsp;</span><span lang="PT"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                      lang="PT">73</span><span lang="PT"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt"
                      lang="PT">CT1AED</span><span lang="PT"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color:#1f497d"
                        lang="PT">Manuel Artur</span></i><span lang="PT"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"
                        lang="PT">De:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"
                      lang="PT"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net"
                        target="_blank">cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net</a>
                      [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net"
                        target="_blank">mailto:cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net</a>]
                      <b>Em nome de </b>Fernando Coutada<br>
                      <b>Enviada:</b> domingo, 27 de Janeiro de 2013
                      21:56<br>
                      <b>Para:</b> Resumo Noticioso ARLA/CLUSTER<br>
                      <b>Assunto:</b> Re: ARLA/CLUSTER: Re: A " super
                      bateria "</span><span lang="PT"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">
                    <span lang="PT">&nbsp;</span></p>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT">Boas</span></p>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT">Este
                          condensador tirei de uma fonte de pc a mais de
                          15 anos...</span></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT">Mas&nbsp;existem&nbsp;por
                          ai a venda usados do pessoal que usa som nos
                          carros tem a venda....</span></p>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT">&nbsp;</span></p>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
                        lang="PT">&nbsp;</span></p>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT">No dia 25 de
                          Janeiro de 2013 &agrave;18 19:34, Manuel Jesus &lt;<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:mojesus@pedradaciencia.com"
                            target="_blank">mojesus@pedradaciencia.com</a>&gt;
                          escreveu:</span></p>
                      <div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                              lang="PT">Caro colega! Boa noite,
                              agradecia se poss&iacute;vel a indica&ccedil;&atilde;o onde
                              adquiri-o, o dito &nbsp;condensador de 1 farad
                              a 25 voltes, n&atilde;o consigo encontrar com
                              esse valor de tens&atilde;o de isolamento.</span><span
                              lang="PT"></span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                              lang="PT">Pretendo adquirir tamb&eacute;m esse
                              tipo de super- condensador.</span><span
                              lang="PT"></span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                              lang="PT">Obrigado.</span><span lang="PT"></span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                              lang="PT">73.</span><span lang="PT"></span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                              lang="PT">CT1AXZ</span><span lang="PT"></span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                              lang="PT">Manuel Jesus</span><span
                              lang="PT"></span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d"
                              lang="PT">&nbsp;</span><span lang="PT"></span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"
                                lang="PT">De:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"
                              lang="PT"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net"
                                target="_blank">cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net</a>
                              [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net"
                                target="_blank">cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net</a>]
                              <b>Em nome de </b>Fernando Coutada<br>
                              <b>Enviada:</b> quinta-feira, 24 de
                              Janeiro de 2013 22:29<br>
                              <b>Para:</b> Resumo Noticioso ARLA/CLUSTER<br>
                              <b>Assunto:</b> Re: ARLA/CLUSTER: Re: A "
                              super bateria "</span><span lang="PT"></span></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;<span lang="PT"></span></p>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal">Boas<span lang="PT"></span></p>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal">Eu na minha mota ando
                                com um condensador de 1F de 25v a mais
                                de 3 anos a bateria esta baixa
                                pois&nbsp;j&aacute;&nbsp;tem 12 anos est&aacute; cansada, desde
                                que meti o condensador a mota pega a
                                primeira e ainda dura.<span lang="PT"></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal">73<span lang="PT"></span></p>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">&nbsp;<span
                                lang="PT"></span></p>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal">No dia 24 de Janeiro
                                de 2013 &agrave;36 21:58, Lu&iacute;s Garcia Filipe
                                &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:afterhours36@gmail.com"
                                  target="_blank">afterhours36@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                                escreveu:<span lang="PT"></span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
                                "Jo&atilde;o", tem raz&atilde;o no que diz, e s&atilde;o as
                                regras.<br>
                                <br>
                                Temos de viver com elas, bem,<br>
                                <br>
                                pelo menos com algumas delas :)-<br>
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                Confesso j&aacute; andava a precisar de um
                                "pux&atilde;o de orelhas" hehehe<br>
                                <br>
                                N&atilde;o se repete mais :)<br>
                                <br>
                                73,<br>
                                <br>
                                CR7AEL<span lang="PT"></span></p>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal">No dia 24 de
                                  Janeiro de 2013 &agrave;27 21:51, Jo&atilde;o Costa
                                  &gt; CT1FBF &lt;<a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:ct1fbf@gmail.com"
                                    target="_blank">ct1fbf@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                                  escreveu:<span lang="PT"></span></p>
                                <div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Caro
                                      Lu&iacute;s Garcia Filipe (CR7AEL),<br>
                                      <br>
                                      N&atilde;o me insultes, chamando-me de
                                      "Sr Jo&atilde;o", por favor.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Pe&ccedil;o-te agora e como um dos
                                      respons&aacute;veis por esta lista, que
                                      sigas<br>
                                      sempre as Recomenda&ccedil;&otilde;es da
                                      Modera&ccedil;&atilde;o &agrave; Lista ARLA/CLUSTER,
                                      que dizem,<br>
                                      como sabes:<br>
                                      <br>
                                      a) Devem ser SEMPRE evitados os
                                      ataques pessoais em p&uacute;blico,
                                      (leia-se<br>
                                      em mensagens enviadas para a
                                      lista). Relembramos que existe o
                                      endere&ccedil;o<br>
                                      de correio electr&oacute;nico particular
                                      de cada um dos autores, que vem<br>
                                      sempre assinalado no inicio de
                                      cada mensagem recebida por cada
                                      membro<br>
                                      ou no arquivo publico, para um
                                      contacto personalizado, caso o
                                      achem<br>
                                      necess&aacute;rio.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      c) Devem ser evitadas, a TODO O
                                      CUSTO, palavras ofensivas &agrave; moral
                                      e<br>
                                      bons costumes.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      d) N&atilde;o se devem ADJECTIVAR de
                                      forma PEJORATIVA directa ou<br>
                                      indirectamente os restantes
                                      participantes da lista e muito
                                      menos<br>
                                      pessoas que nela n&atilde;o est&atilde;o
                                      inscritas.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      e) Devem ser seguidos os
                                      princ&iacute;pios b&aacute;sicos e elementares
                                      do Civismo e<br>
                                      da Educa&ccedil;&atilde;o em rela&ccedil;&atilde;o a qualquer
                                      interven&ccedil;&atilde;o.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Pois sen&atilde;o seremos obrigados a te
                                      expulsar. Espero que compreendas a<br>
                                      minha e a nossa posi&ccedil;&atilde;o pois n&atilde;o &eacute;
                                      utilizando termos menos pr&oacute;prios<br>
                                      que se atingem os nossos objectivo
                                      por muita revolta que tenhamos,<br>
                                      antes pelo contrario, como a vida
                                      se encarregar&aacute; certamente de te<br>
                                      ensinar.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Pe&ccedil;o desculpa pelo meu tom
                                      paternalista.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Jo&atilde;o Costa (CT1FBF)<br>
                                      <br>
                                      ARLA/CLUSTER: Re: A " super
                                      bateria "<br>
                                      Lu&iacute;s Garcia Filipe afterhours36 <a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="http://gmail.com"
                                        target="_blank">gmail.com</a><br>
                                      Quinta-Feira, 24 de Janeiro de
                                      2013 - 21:05:33 WET<br>
                                      <br>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Boas!<br>
                                      <br>
                                      A ideia que eu tinha de um
                                      condensador, muito leigamente, era
                                      de que &eacute; o<br>
                                      componente que permite por
                                      exemplo, o flash da m&aacute;quina
                                      fotogr&aacute;fica, ou<br>
                                      seja, uma grande capacidade de
                                      carga e muito r&aacute;pida, mas tamb&eacute;m o
                                      ser&aacute; a<br>
                                      sua descarga.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Tirei umas d&uacute;vidas com o David
                                      CR7AEK, que tem o blog de
                                      electr&oacute;nica de<br>
                                      onde retirei informa&ccedil;&atilde;o para este
                                      post, e sempre lhe perguntei se
                                      n&atilde;o era<br>
                                      poss&iacute;vel fazer de um condensador,
                                      uma super bateria baseada em
                                      condensador.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      A resposta do mesmo &eacute; que ao que
                                      parece j&aacute; existem, mas ocupam
                                      muito<br>
                                      espa&ccedil;o, sendo que a sua vantagem
                                      face aos vulgares sistemas de
                                      baterias &eacute; o<br>
                                      r&aacute;pido carregamento e a alta
                                      capacidade de carga.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Ora, segundo este artigo, esse
                                      problema foi ultrapassado em
                                      laborat&oacute;rio,<br>
                                      com a descoberta do cientista que
                                      surge no v&iacute;deo publicado no blog
                                      do David.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Foi descoberto um
                                      super-condensador de tamanho muito
                                      muito reduzido, com<br>
                                      uma descarga muito lenta. Desta
                                      forma, as baterias actualmente
                                      existentes<br>
                                      tornam-se obsoletas.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Efectivamente o meu forte, como &eacute;
                                      poss&iacute;vel ver, n&atilde;o &eacute; a electr&oacute;nica,
                                      uma<br>
                                      vez que os estudos derivaram para
                                      outras mat&eacute;rias hehehe, mas hei-de
                                      l&aacute;<br>
                                      chegar !!!<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Sr Jo&atilde;o, quanto &aacute;s mumias com
                                      tiques fascistas que por ai andam,
                                      n&atilde;o me<br>
                                      preocupo com aquilo que elas
                                      pensam porque o resultado da
                                      exist&ecirc;ncia dos<br>
                                      mesmos &eacute; igual a -0.<br>
                                      <br>
                                      Vamos l&aacute; ver se desta vez consegui
                                      explicar melhor heheheh :)<br>
                                      <br>
                                      73,<br>
                                      <br>
                                      CR7AEL<span lang="PT"></span></p>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">_______________________________________________<br>
                                  CLUSTER mailing list<br>
                                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:CLUSTER@radio-amador.net"
                                    target="_blank">CLUSTER@radio-amador.net</a><br>
                                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="http://radio-amador.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cluster"
                                    target="_blank">http://radio-amador.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cluster</a><span
                                    lang="PT"></span></p>
                              </div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
                                  style="color:#888888"><br>
                                  <br clear="all">
                                  <br>
                                  -- <br>
                                  Cumprimentos;<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Lu&iacute;s Filipe Garcia S. </span><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                CLUSTER mailing list<br>
                                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:CLUSTER@radio-amador.net"
                                  target="_blank">CLUSTER@radio-amador.net</a><br>
                                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="http://radio-amador.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cluster"
                                  target="_blank">http://radio-amador.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cluster</a><span
                                  lang="PT"></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                              <br clear="all">
                              <span lang="PT"></span></p>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;<span lang="PT"></span></p>
                            </div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal">-- <span lang="PT"></span></p>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">73
                                  / CT2HFZ</span><span lang="PT"></span></p>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;<span lang="PT"></span></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Ao
                                    reencaminhar esta mensagem, por
                                    favor:<br>
                                    &nbsp;<br>
                                    1. Apague o meu e-mail e o meu nome.<br>
                                    2. Apague sempre os endere&ccedil;os dos
                                    amigos antes de reenviar.<br>
                                    3. Encaminhe sempre como c&oacute;pia
                                    oculta (Bcc) aos SEUS destinat&aacute;rios.<br>
                                    &nbsp;<br>
                                    Agindo sempre assim dificultaremos a
                                    dissemina&ccedil;&atilde;o de v&iacute;rus, spams e
                                    banners. Obrigado!!!</span><span
                                    lang="PT"></span></p>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
                          lang="PT"><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                          CLUSTER mailing list<br>
                          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:CLUSTER@radio-amador.net"
                            target="_blank">CLUSTER@radio-amador.net</a><br>
                          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="http://radio-amador.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cluster"
                            target="_blank">http://radio-amador.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cluster</a></span></p>
                    </div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT"><br>
                        <br clear="all">
                      </span></p>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT">&nbsp;</span></p>
                    </div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT">-- </span></p>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"
                          lang="PT">73 / CT2HFZ</span><span lang="PT"></span></p>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="PT">&nbsp;</span></p>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"
                            lang="PT">Ao reencaminhar esta mensagem, por
                            favor:<br>
                            &nbsp;<br>
                            1. Apague o meu e-mail e o meu nome.<br>
                            2. Apague sempre os endere&ccedil;os dos amigos
                            antes de reenviar.<br>
                            3. Encaminhe sempre como c&oacute;pia oculta (Bcc)
                            aos SEUS destinat&aacute;rios.<br>
                            &nbsp;<br>
                            Agindo sempre assim dificultaremos a
                            dissemina&ccedil;&atilde;o de v&iacute;rus, spams e banners.
                            Obrigado!!!</span><span lang="PT"></span></p>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
                      lang="PT"><br>
                      <br>
                    </span></p>
                  <pre><span lang="PT">_______________________________________________</span></pre>
                  <pre><span lang="PT">CLUSTER mailing list</span></pre>
                  <pre><span lang="PT"><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:CLUSTER@radio-amador.net" target="_blank">CLUSTER@radio-amador.net</a></span></pre>
                  <pre><span lang="PT"><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://radio-amador.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cluster" target="_blank">http://radio-amador.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cluster</a></span></pre>
                </blockquote>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
                    lang="PT"><br>
                    <br>
                  </span></p>
                <pre><span lang="PT">-- </span></pre>
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                <pre><span lang="PT">Callsign: CS7ABP</span></pre>
                <pre><span lang="PT">QRA: Pedro Ribeiro</span></pre>
                <pre><span lang="PT">GRID Locator: IM58mr</span></pre>
                <pre><span lang="PT">QTH: S&atilde;o Francisco, Alcochete, Portugal</span></pre>
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QRA: Pedro Ribeiro
GRID Locator: IM58mr
QTH: S&atilde;o Francisco, Alcochete, Portugal
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