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<div><font color="#000099" size="4">Efectivamente os &quot;links&quot; que o colega Manuel Jesus aqui colocou apenas referem motores ELECTRO-MAGNÉTICOS, ou seja, consomem energia eléctrica para produzir energia. Embora sejam altamente eficientes, não chegam aos 100%, como é lógico...</font></div>

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<div><font color="#000099" size="4">Continuo a aguardar resposta por parte da REP aos e-mails que enviei directamente ao seu Presidente e REP-Geral no que concerne à co-responsabilização/supervisão do material publicado no seu Boletim.</font></div>

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<div><font color="#000099" size="4">73 de CT1PT</font></div>
<div><font color="#000099" size="4">Carlos Pinheiro<br><br></font></div>
<div class="gmail_quote">2011/1/2 Eduardo A. <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:arraia@e2mec.com">arraia@e2mec.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="COLOR: #1f497d">Caro Manuel Jesus,</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="COLOR: #1f497d"> </span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="COLOR: #1f497d">Eu ao contrário tenho muitos comentários a fazer sobre esta aberração publicada no Boletim da REP!!! Mas adiante…</span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="COLOR: #1f497d">Muito bem, até enviou bastantes links só que não encontro nenhum credível ou conhecido tais como:</span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="COLOR: #1f497d">- Discovery</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="COLOR: #1f497d">- Nacional Geografic</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="COLOR: #1f497d">- NASA</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="COLOR: #1f497d">- Toshiba</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="COLOR: #1f497d">- Mitsubishi</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="COLOR: #1f497d">- General Motors</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="COLOR: #1f497d">- Philips</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="COLOR: #1f497d">- Siemens</span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="COLOR: #1f497d">Será que toda esta gente anda a dormir???</span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="COLOR: #1f497d">Será que ainda não percebeu que isto é uma vigarice que já circula á vários anos na internet primeiramente era um qualquer Japonês depois já foi um Brasileiro agora um Turko, inicialmente foi uma trotineta, depois uma bicicleta e agora um ventilador… e devem-me ter escapado alguns…</span></b></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="COLOR: #1f497d" lang="EN-US">Eduardo A.</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="COLOR: #1f497d" lang="EN-US">CT1EEW-CT01110</span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="COLOR: #1f497d">NB: Algumas das informações abaixo são sobre motores magnéticos mas normais…</span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">De:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <a href="mailto:cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net" target="_blank">cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net" target="_blank">cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net</a>] <b>Em nome de </b>Manuel Jesus<br>
<b>Enviada:</b> domingo, 2 de Janeiro de 2011 21:37 
<div class="im"><br><b>Para:</b> &#39;Resumo Noticioso Electrónico ARLA&#39;<br></div><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:jc@sapo.pt" target="_blank">jc@sapo.pt</a><br><b>Assunto:</b> [SPAM]RE: ARLA/CLUSTER: Motor Magnético ??? Moto contínuo ???</span> 
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Manuel Jesus</span></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><span><ins>De:</ins></span></span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><span><ins> <a href="mailto:cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net" target="_blank">cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net" target="_blank">cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net</a>] <b>Em nome de </b>Eduardo Arraia<br>
<b>Enviada:</b> sexta-feira, 31 de Dezembro de 2010 10:38<br><b>Para:</b> &#39;Resumo Noticioso Electrónico ARLA&#39;<br><b>Assunto:</b> RE: ARLA/CLUSTER: Motor Magnético ??? Moto contínuo ???</ins></span></span><span><ins></ins></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><span><ins>Gostei dessa da pulseira do equilíbrio... A tal que dá bastante equilíbrio… ui ui e se dá…. mas monetário a quem a vende!!! hehehehehehe</ins></span></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><span><ins>O artigo destes motores é equivalente à das pulseiras sem duvida alguma… </ins></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 14pt"><span><ins>Ainda sobre o tal moto-continuo, como se pode publicar um artigo sem qualquer rigor cientifico num boletim de uma associação bastante respeitada? Baseando-se simplesmente em boatos, vigarices, e uns vídeos forjados etc… pena o autor não ter visto também os desmentidos as condenações dos vigaristas… e onde estão os números das tais patentes? pelo menos que eu saiba esta historia circula à 6 anos na internet sob vários títulos, nesta lista de distribuição também já circulou com o titulo “Já em testes no Japão” salvo erro enviado pelo colega Matias.</ins></span></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><span><ins>De:</ins></span></span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><span><ins> <a href="mailto:cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net" target="_blank">cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net" target="_blank">cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net</a>] <b>Em nome de </b>Carlos Pinheiro<br>
<b>Enviada:</b> quinta-feira, 30 de Dezembro de 2010 16:45<br><b>Para:</b> Resumo Noticioso Electrónico ARLA<br><b>Assunto:</b> ARLA/CLUSTER: Motor Magnético ??? Moto contínuo ???</ins></span></span></p></div>
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<p><span><ins>Caros colegas,<br> <br>Enviei o e-mail abaixo para o CT1END, mas até agora não recebi qualquer resposta. Creio que artigos destes, equivalem a anúncios de pulseiras magnéticas na Revista &quot;Maria&quot; e não dignificam minimamente a REP.<br>
 <br>Talvez por esta via consiga receber alguma resposta...<br> <br>Bom Ano Novo para todos !<br> <br>73 de CT1PT</ins></span></p>
<p><span><ins><br>---------- Mensagem encaminhada ----------<br>De: Carlos Pinheiro &lt;<a href="mailto:karlus.pinheiro@gmail.com" target="_blank">karlus.pinheiro@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>Data: 22 de Dezembro de 2010 17:41<br>
Assunto: Motor Magnético ??? Moto contínuo ???<br>Para: <a href="mailto:ct1end@gmail.com" target="_blank">ct1end@gmail.com</a><br>- Ocultar citação -</ins></span></p>
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<p><span><ins><br>Caro Carlos,<br> <br>Fiquei pasmado de ver este artigo na Revista da REP !<br> <br>Este material (SCAM=PHISHING) anda a circular na net pelo menos desde 2004 e já foi desmentido vezes sem conta !!!<br> <br>
Basta fazer uma pequena busca no GOOGLE por &quot;Magnetic motors frauds&quot;(o que o CT1AXZ deveria ter feito) e aparece muita coisa, incluindo &quot;inventores&quot; de motores magnéticos processados judicialmente...</ins></span></p>

<p><span><ins><br>Abraço e Boas Festas,<br> <br>CT1PT<br>-- <br>Carlos Pinheiro</ins></span></p>
<p><span><ins>Sócio REP nº 1720 (com as quotas em dia)<br> <br clear="all"></ins></span></p></div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>CLUSTER mailing list<br><a href="mailto:CLUSTER@radio-amador.net">CLUSTER@radio-amador.net</a><br>
<a href="http://radio-amador.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cluster" target="_blank">http://radio-amador.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cluster</a><br><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Carlos Pinheiro<br><br>