<div>Muito obrigado João Costa</div>
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<div>Efectivamente e apesar de estar reformado, começa a ser difícil ler todos os mails com atenção, pois os temas são os mais variados e começa a ser&nbsp;cansativo e fastidioso ler tudo e mais alguma coisa.</div>
<div>Parabéns aos colegas que apesar de terem os seus empregos e restante vida, ainda têm tempo e disponibilidade para lerem tudo e mais alguma coisa, hi.hi.hi.hi.hi............</div>
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<div>Obrigado João Costa</div>
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<div>José António Proença</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2008/6/2 João Gonçalves Costa &lt;<a href="mailto:joao.a.costa@ctt.pt">joao.a.costa@ctt.pt</a>&gt;:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Caro José António Proença,CT2HIV.<br><br>Lê por favor com atenção o mail do Jorge Santos, CT2JIB, sobre o assunto, em resposta ao colega Albuquerque, CT1AOZ:<br>

<div class="Ih2E3d"><br>&quot;Boas tardes Albuquerque e demais colegas da lista.<br><br>Pelos vistos as nossas conversas particulares e as daqui da lista não servem para nada.<br><br>O MEO enquanto sistema de TV seja ele por linha telefónica (ADSL) ou por satélite, não provoca nenhuma interferência em nenhum serviço de telecomunicações, mais uma vez o MEO por si só não provoca nenhuma interferência. O problema é a passagem da Meo box de uma sala para outra quando o cliente diz não querer fios a passar pelas paredes e aí surgem duas soluções:<br>
<br>1 - rede Wireless (que alguns instaladores não têm competências técnicas para a sua configuração)<br>2 - &nbsp;o PLC é fácil, é só chegar e ligar na tomada (daí os mesmos instaladores preferirem este sistema)<br><br>e aqui é que começam as nossas chatices, com interferências na banda toda.<br>
<br>Portanto duma vez por todas vamos a tratar os animais pelos nomes &quot;o serviço MEO, não interfere com ninguém&quot; mas sim os periféricos que depois são instalados.<br><br>Um abraço e bom fim de semana.<br><br>Jorge Santos - CT2JIB&quot;<br>
<br><br></div>Acho que responde cabalmente á questão.<br><br><br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 73 de:<br>&nbsp;***************************************<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; CT1FBF / João Gonçalves Costa<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; QTH Locator : IM58kq<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; CQ Zone: 14 &nbsp;/ &nbsp;ITU Zone: 37<br>
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<br><br>________________________________<br><br>From: <a href="mailto:cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net">cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net">cluster-bounces@radio-amador.net</a>] On Behalf Of JOSE PROENÇA<br>
Sent: segunda-feira, 2 de Junho de 2008 20:06<br>To: jose ct1aoz<br>Cc: Francisco Costa, CT1EAT; Jose E. Ribeiro Sa; REP-RedeEmissoresPortugueses; <a href="mailto:radioamadores_algarve@yahoogrupos.com.br">radioamadores_algarve@yahoogrupos.com.br</a>; ARLA/Cluster<br>
Subject: ARLA/CLUSTER: Re: [REP-RedeEmissoresPortugueses] Meo por Satélite<br><br><br>Olá amigos<br><br><br>Será que existe a possibilidade de injectar na rede eléctrica caseira,<br>a partir de um desses pontos?<br><br>Quem sabe sff.<br>
<br>Obrigado, 73<br><br>JAP<br>CT2HIV<br><br><br>2008/6/1 jose ct1aoz &lt;<a href="mailto:ct1aoz@netvisao.pt">ct1aoz@netvisao.pt</a>&gt;:<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d"><br><br><br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Olá...<br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Tive hoje a grata certeza de que o MEO SATELITE é totalmente inofensivo<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;ao radioamadorismo e pode ir até 3 receptores.por cada casa...<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;realmente o Costa tem razão... é tudo inofensivo e creio ser o sistema mais em conta no momento<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Vou instalar isto aqui no predio ( somos 4) antes que haja algum PLC por aqui... &nbsp;hihihi<br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;um abraço e tudo bom...<br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;73 do CT1AOZ<br><br><br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;----- Original Message -----<br>
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<div class="Wj3C7c">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;From: Francisco Costa, CT1EAT &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:ct1eat@sapo.pt">ct1eat@sapo.pt</a>&gt;<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;To: Jose E. Ribeiro Sa &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:zemurtosa@mail.telepac.pt">zemurtosa@mail.telepac.pt</a>&gt; &nbsp;; REP-RedeEmissoresPortugueses &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:REP-RedeEmissoresPortugueses@yahoogrupos.com.br">REP-RedeEmissoresPortugueses@yahoogrupos.com.br</a>&gt; &nbsp;; Carlos Nora &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:carlosnora.ct1end@gmail.com">carlosnora.ct1end@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Cc: ARLA/Cluster &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:cluster@radio-amador.net">cluster@radio-amador.net</a>&gt; &nbsp;; <a href="mailto:radioamadores_algarve@yahoogrupos.com.br">radioamadores_algarve@yahoogrupos.com.br</a><br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 10:21 PM<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Subject: Re: [REP-RedeEmissoresPortugueses] Meo por Satélite<br><br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Boa noite Sá<br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Eu tenho o Meo Satélite.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Podes aconselhar os vizinhos sem problema,<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;pois a versão sat do Meo é &quot;radioamateur friendly&quot;<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;O sistema consta de uma parábola, um LNB simples<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;(ou quádruplo) e um (ou até três) receptor(es) de satélite.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Tudo material inofensivo, hi!<br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;73 F.Costa, CT1EAT<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<a href="http://www.qsl.net/ct1eat" target="_blank">www.qsl.net/ct1eat</a><br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;----- Original Message -----<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;From: &quot;Jose E. Ribeiro Sa&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:zemurtosa@mail.telepac.pt">zemurtosa@mail.telepac.pt</a>&gt;<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;To: &quot;REP-RedeEmissoresPortugueses&quot;<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;<a href="mailto:REP-RedeEmissoresPortugueses@yahoogrupos.com.br">REP-RedeEmissoresPortugueses@yahoogrupos.com.br</a>&gt;; &quot;Carlos Nora&quot;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;<a href="mailto:carlosnora.ct1end@gmail.com">carlosnora.ct1end@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Cc: &quot;ARLA/Cluster&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:cluster@radio-amador.net">cluster@radio-amador.net</a>&gt;;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;<a href="mailto:radioamadores_algarve@yahoogrupos.com.br">radioamadores_algarve@yahoogrupos.com.br</a>&gt;<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 9:44 PM<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Subject: [REP-RedeEmissoresPortugueses] Meo por Satélite<br>
<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Boa noite,<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Já alguém teve alguma experiência com o MEO por Satélite?<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Será que utiliza a mesma &quot;porcaria&quot; do PLC ou será somente<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;a parabólica e receptor Satélite?<br>
<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Alguma ajuda será muito bem-vinda para aconselhar aqui os vizinhos<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;que continuam a ser bombardeados por telefonemas para instalarem o MEO por<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Satélite.<br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Se for inofensivo digo-lhes que sim, se for nocivo à recepção em HF tento<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;demove-los<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;da ideia.<br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Agradeço uma resposta.<br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;73 José de Sá CT1EEB<br><br><br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;__._,_.___<br></div></div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Mensagens neste tópico &lt;<a href="http://br.groups.yahoo.com/group/REP-RedeEmissoresPortugueses/message/242;_ylc=X3oDMTMzbW5rOWVnBF9TAzk3NDkwNDM3BGdycElkAzIwOTg5MTUyBGdycHNwSWQDMjEzNzExMjMzNwRtc2dJZAMyNDUEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMjEyMzA4NDY0BHRwY0lkAzI0Mg--" target="_blank">http://br.groups.yahoo.com/group/REP-RedeEmissoresPortugueses/message/242;_ylc=X3oDMTMzbW5rOWVnBF9TAzk3NDkwNDM3BGdycElkAzIwOTg5MTUyBGdycHNwSWQDMjEzNzExMjMzNwRtc2dJZAMyNDUEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMjEyMzA4NDY0BHRwY0lkAzI0Mg--</a>&gt; (2) Responder (através da web) &lt;<a href="http://br.groups.yahoo.com/group/REP-RedeEmissoresPortugueses/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJwdmpsZDIyBF9TAzk3NDkwNDM3BGdycElkAzIwOTg5MTUyBGdycHNwSWQDMjEzNzExMjMzNwRtc2dJZAMyNDUEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMjEyMzA4NDY0?act=reply&amp;messageNum=245" target="_blank">http://br.groups.yahoo.com/group/REP-RedeEmissoresPortugueses/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJwdmpsZDIyBF9TAzk3NDkwNDM3BGdycElkAzIwOTg5MTUyBGdycHNwSWQDMjEzNzExMjMzNwRtc2dJZAMyNDUEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMjEyMzA4NDY0?act=reply&amp;messageNum=245</a>&gt; | Adicionar um novo tópico &lt;<a href="http://br.groups.yahoo.com/group/REP-RedeEmissoresPortugueses/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJmbmhoMm1sBF9TAzk3NDkwNDM3BGdycElkAzIwOTg5MTUyBGdycHNwSWQDMjEzNzExMjMzNwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzEyMTIzMDg0NjQ-" target="_blank">http://br.groups.yahoo.com/group/REP-RedeEmissoresPortugueses/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJmbmhoMm1sBF9TAzk3NDkwNDM3BGdycElkAzIwOTg5MTUyBGdycHNwSWQDMjEzNzExMjMzNwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzEyMTIzMDg0NjQ-</a>&gt;<br>
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