ARLA/CLUSTER: Um repetidor comercial para PMR da ICOM
Paulo Santos
ct4dk.santos gmail.com
Quinta-Feira, 15 de Dezembro de 2011 - 18:13:35 WET
Nem vale a pena ver a Lei pois nao são permitidos retransmissores em PMR446
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Paulo Santos, CT4DK
Em 15/12/2011 16:50, pedro almeida escreveu:
> "Como fazer se a legislação Portuga não permite mais de 0,5 W.
> Será possivel installar este bicharoco em Portugal ?"
>
> Julgo que a lei apenas fala no transceptor pessoal e nao em
> equipamentos retransmissores. Vou ver a lei mas quem estiver mais
> dentro das leis que se opine.
>
> 73
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> 2011/12/15 Hugo Barata <ct2hmx gmail.com <mailto:ct2hmx gmail.com>>
>
> O que o CT1JIB disse vai ao encontro do que disse, a terminologia
> PMR em redes profissional enquadra-se nas redes SMT e PMR446
> enquadra-se no personal moblie radio, daí que a sigla PMR446 tenha
> o 446 sempre presente .
>
> Até porque a sigla PMR para uso profissional já existe há muito
> mais tempo que esta do PMR446. Vejam catalogos das diversas marcas
> sobre equipamentos profissionais e vejam lá qual a sigla que
> aparece PMR Professional Mobile Radio.
>
> Cumprimentos Hugo
>
> 2011/12/15 Fernando Mano <fernando.mano gmail.com
> <mailto:fernando.mano gmail.com>>
>
> Tá tudo na Legislação......
> Nada feito.. excede em muitíssimo as características que
> definem o PMR em Portugal !!!!!
>
> Fernando Mano
> CR7ABS
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> 2011/12/15 Jorge Santos <ct1jib gmail.com
> <mailto:ct1jib gmail.com>>
>
> Boa tarde a todos os colegas.
>
> A falha está na terminologia dos equipamentos, neste caso
> PMR significa "Private Mobile Radio" e não PMR (446)
> "Personnal Mobile Radio", nos primeiros as potências
> poderão ir aos 100 W (no nosso país) nos segundos a
> convenção internacional estipulou os 500 mW.
>
> Continuação de boa tarde.
>
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>
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> 2011/12/15 Hugo Barata <ct2hmx gmail.com
> <mailto:ct2hmx gmail.com>>
>
> Acho que se está a confundir PMR private mobile radio
> com PMR Personal mobile radio 446Mhz.
>
> A sigla é a mesma mas com contextos diferentes.
>
> 73 de Hugo Barata CT2HMX
>
>
> 2011/12/15 Pedro Ribeiro <cr7abp gmail.com
> <mailto:cr7abp gmail.com>>
>
> Pior, a legislação nacional não permite que os
> equipamentos PMR tenham a possibilidade de ligar
> outra antena que não a de origem, isto é, a antena
> tem de ser parte constituinte e inseparável do
> transceptor.
>
> Repare que apesar do título, o "pack" de
> equipamentos é genérico e poderá ter muitas
> aplicações consideradas legais ...
>
> 73!
>
>
> On 15-12-2011 14:11, Amadeu Rosa wrote:
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>> Boa Tarde
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>> Como se mostra neste email o repetidor tem 25W.
>> Como fazer se a legislação Portuga não permite
>> mais de 0,5 W.
>> Será possivel installar este bicharoco em Portugal ?.
>> 73 do ct2hgl
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>> Citando João Gonçalves Costa
>> <joao.a.costa ctt.pt> <mailto:joao.a.costa ctt.pt>:
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>>> *_ICOM PMR SRP 25 Watts Repeater_*
>>>
>>> Descrição:
>>> http://www.cqdx.ru/ham/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/SRP_Repeaterv2_front_448x450.jpg
>>> <http://www.cqdx.ru/ham/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/SRP_Repeaterv2_front_448x450.jpg>
>>>
>>>
>>> Designed to enhance coverage of a two-way radio
>>> system, the cost effective SRP repeater series
>>> uses a combination of *Icom IC-F5012/F6012
>>> <http://www.icomuk.co.uk/IC-F5012_F6012_Series/PMR_Mobile_Radio>*
>>> entry level mobile radios and can be used as a
>>> VHF to VHF (SRP-V11), UHF to UHF (SRP-U11), or
>>> cross band repeater (SRP-X11).
>>>
>>> The SRP repeater instantly retransmits received
>>> audio without any noticeable delay. All
>>> repeaters in this series provide a stable *25
>>> watt output power* allowing a radio scheme to be
>>> boosted beyond the range of normal Private
>>> Mobile Radio (PMR) networks.
>>>
>>> The SRP Repeater Series comes complete with
>>> housing (including 240V PSU) to mount the
>>> repeater. The SRP is incredibly flexible so that
>>> you can install the repeater in a vehicle, an
>>> office, or a temporary location.
>>>
>>> * *
>>>
>>> *Specifications:*
>>>
>>> Available as a VHF, UHF or crossband (VHF and
>>> UHF) repeater
>>> Features two IC-F5012/F6012 commercial mobile radios
>>> Extremely compact and portable.
>>> Price includes housing and 240V PSU
>>> Two antenna working as standard
>>> Optional duplexer can be fitted
>>> Can run from a 12 volt supply.
>>> Vehicle or desk-mountable.
>>> CTCSS signalling.
>>> Supplied as standard with HM-152 Fist microphone
>>>
>>> *_ _*
>>>
>>> *_VHF/UHF Commercial Mobile Series_*
>>>
>>> Descrição:
>>> http://www.cqdx.ru/ham/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/IC-F5012_HM-152_std-ian_450x193.jpg
>>> <http://www.cqdx.ru/ham/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/IC-F5012_HM-152_std-ian_450x193.jpg>
>>>
>>>
>>> The new IC-F5012 mobile transceiver series is
>>> the successor to Icom?s best selling IC-F110S
>>> series and is designed as a simplified
>>> counterpart to Icom?s IC-F5022 series. This
>>> series has many attractive features and an an
>>> uncomplicated LED display that makes it ideally
>>> suited to small to mid sized radio systems such
>>> as taxi operators, construction companies,
>>> security firms and farmers.
>>> Multi 5-tone function built-in
>>> The IC-F5012 series has built-in 5-Tone, CTCSS
>>> and DTCS signalling capabilities for group
>>> communication. The IC-F5012 series can decode up
>>> eight 5-tone codes on a channel. The following
>>> actions are programmable to respond to each tone.
>>>
>>> ? Beep sound
>>> ? LED lighting
>>> ? Answer back call
>>> ? Auto TX
>>> ? Stun, kill revive
>>> ? Scanning
>>> ? External output*
>>>
>>> * External device connection such as a horn
>>> honk, buzzer, etc is required.
>>>
>>> * *
>>>
>>> *Internal option units available*
>>> The IC-F5012 series has an internal 40-pin
>>> socket for an optional unit so that you can use
>>> the optional UT-109R or UT-110R voice scrambler
>>> units The UT-108R DTMF decode unit is also
>>> available.
>>>
>>> 4W (typical) front mounted loud speaker
>>> The IC-F5012 series has a 4W (typical) front
>>> mounted speaker providing the operator with
>>> clear audio during operation.
>>>
>>> * *
>>>
>>> *Easy to use*
>>> The IC-F5012 series has 4 programmable buttons.
>>> 8 memory channels can be easily selected with
>>> the programmable buttons. Backlit buttons make
>>> night time operation simple.
>>>
>>> * *
>>>
>>> *Specifications:*
>>> Entry level mobile with a very competitive price
>>> Simple operation with 4 programmable buttons
>>> VHF (IC-F5012) & UHF (IC-F6012) versions available
>>> MIL-STD-810-F rugged body
>>> Enhanced scanning features
>>> Multiple signalling modes built-in 5-Tone,
>>> CTCSS, DTCS, MDC 1200* and BIIS 1200* (* Limited
>>> functions only)
>>> 4W (typ.) front mounted speaker and independent
>>> volume knob
>>> 2 year warranty on transceiver, 1 year warranty
>>> on accessories
>>>
>>> * *
>>>
>>> *Enhanced Scan features*
>>> ? Priority scan allows you to monitor one or two
>>> priority channels while scanning other
>>> non-priority channels.
>>> ? The Tx channel and talk back functions allow
>>> you to make a quick response while scanning.
>>> ? Nuisance delete ? User can temporary skip a
>>> busy channel from the scanning list.
>>> ? Monitor key action ? User can stop a scan when
>>> pushing the monitor button.
>>> External memory channel control with optional
>>> ACC cable
>>> The optional ACC cable allows you to connect
>>> various external devices like a PC, external
>>> speaker, or even vehicle horn. It can provide
>>> ignition sense function, external memory channel
>>> control as well as the external PTT, audio
>>> output and modulated signal input. The OPC-1939
>>> is a D-SUB 15-pin type and the OPC-2078 is a
>>> D-SUB 25-pin type.
>>>
>>> * *
>>>
>>> *Other features*
>>> ? BIIS PTT ID transmission
>>> ? ±2.5ppm frequency stability
>>> ? DTMF autodial memories
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Fonte: SPARKY's Blog
>>>
>>>
>>>
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