Re: ARLA/CLUSTER: Petição para banir o PLC no Reino Unido.

Quinta-Feira, 28 de Agosto de 2008 - 11:40:43 WEST

Boas.O coordenador da petição e do grupo UKQRM mandou-me um email a
agradecer as questões que lá coloquei sobre a petição ser só para residentes
na Inglaterra no entanto sugestões que dei a informar serão sugestões a ter
em conta sobre uma petição a nível  mundial contra o uso do PLC enquanto não
for compatível com a onda que esta a ser preparada no futuro.

73 de Hugo Barata CT2HMX

2008/8/26 Carlos Mourato <radiofarol  gmail.com>

> Eu já tinha dito isso antes, mas parece que ninguem ligou!
>
> 73 de CT4RK
>
>
>
>
> 2008/8/25 Hugo Barata <ct2hmx  gmail.com>
>
>> Boa tarde.Depois de ler o artigo novamente reparei nessa parte de a
>> petição ser apenas para cidadãos britânicos ou residentes no Reino Unido.
>>
>> 73 de Hugo Barata CT2HMX
>>
>> 2008/8/25 Carlos Pinheiro <karlus.pinheiro  gmail.com>
>>
>> Caro Hugo,
>>>
>>> Efectivamente o texto é bem explicito. A petição é apenas para cidadãos
>>> britânicos ou residentes no Reino Unido:
>>>
>>> *"and if you are a British citizen (including ex-pats) or resident sign
>>> the petition at"*
>>>
>>> 73's do CT1PT
>>> Carlos Pinheiro
>>>
>>> 2008/8/25 Hugo Barata <ct2hmx  gmail.com>
>>>
>>>  Boas a todos.Eu tentei assinar a petição mas deu erro porque parece ser
>>>> só para residentes na Inglaterra.No entanto como sou membro no UKQRM já
>>>> coloquei a questão ao Mike que me apareceu no registo da petição e estou a
>>>> espera da resposta.No entanto podendo estar a fazer um erro na inserção dos
>>>> dados se alguem conseguir assinar a petição e que não dê erro que diga
>>>> algo.Todos contra o PLC enquanto não haver compatibilidade electromagnetica
>>>> com a onda curta.Obrigado.
>>>>
>>>> 73 de Hugo Barata CT2HMX
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 1:17 AM, João Costa > CT1FBF <ct1fbf  gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Radio interference from Internet over mains units
>>>>>
>>>>> The horrendous radio interference problems caused by devices providing
>>>>> an Internet connection over the household electrical mains has become
>>>>> a 'hot topic' recently with a petition being started on the Government
>>>>> website to get the devices banned.
>>>>>
>>>>> A number of companies are selling products that enable people to link
>>>>> their computers or TV set-top boxes to the Internet via the household
>>>>> mains. Such devices are even being supplied to consumers by British
>>>>> Telecom (BT) as part of their BT Vision product.
>>>>>
>>>>> In a recent posting on the DRM-L Yahoo group Mike Barraclough provided
>>>>> some links demonstrating the interference these devices cause across
>>>>> the radio bands. Mike wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> BT are supplying two Comtrend DH10-PF adaptors, they are being used to
>>>>> communicate from the BT Home Hub by the computer to the BT Vision
>>>>> V-Box by the television.
>>>>>
>>>>> The interference affects all bands, there is limited, but not
>>>>> particularly effective, notching in the amateur bands.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are some WAV files recorded two weeks ago by Alan Roe in
>>>>> Teddington whose neighbours have these devices, Alan is a long time
>>>>> shortwave broadcast band listener and editor for the World DX Club.
>>>>>
>>>>> For each file, you'll hear Alan stepping through the range in 5 kHz
>>>>> steps:
>>>>>
>>>>> 4700-4800khz   13500-13600kHz
>>>>> 5900-6000kHz   15000-15100kHz
>>>>> 9400-9500kHz   17450-17550kHz
>>>>> 11500-11600kHz   25600-25700kHz
>>>>>
>>>>> BT Vision is installed in 282,000 UK homes, the adaptors are supplied
>>>>> as standard and the install guide says customers should use them.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are alternatives to this technology, wired or wireless
>>>>> solutions. Ofcom are logging complaints as spectrum abuse and it's
>>>>> known that in three cases the adaptors have been removed by BT
>>>>> following complaints to Ofcom.
>>>>>
>>>>> However a complaints based system does not solve the problem, BT
>>>>> Vision has been targeted so far at current BT Broadband users, they
>>>>> are shortly to be advertising the system nationally.
>>>>>
>>>>> For much more information - please go to the UKQRM website at:
>>>>> http://www.mikeandsniffy.co.uk/UKQRM/
>>>>>
>>>>> and join the Yahoo Group at:
>>>>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/UKQRM/
>>>>>
>>>>> and if you are a British citizen (including ex-pats) or resident sign
>>>>> the petition at:
>>>>> http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/SaveShortwave/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> DRM-L Yahoo Group
>>>>> http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/DRM-L
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Fonte: The Southgate News website
>>>>>                                   _\\|//_
>>>>>                                   ( o o )
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> 73 de Hugo Barata CT2HMX
>>>>
>>>> »»»»»»»»»»Diga não ao PLC,PLT,BPL....não use a rede electrica para afiar
>>>> serrotes ,queria interferências noutros serviços sem que se
>>>> aperceba!!!«««««««««
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>>> Carlos Pinheiro
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>> 73 de Hugo Barata CT2HMX
>>
>> »»»»»»»»»»Diga não ao PLC,PLT,BPL....não use a rede electrica para afiar
>> serrotes ,queria interferências noutros serviços sem que se
>> aperceba!!!«««««««««
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> --
> Best 73 from:
> regards from:
> CT4RK
> Carlos Mourato
> Sines
>
> Save the Radio Spectrum! Eliminate Broadband over Power Line.
>
> Salve as frequencias de rádio. Não use a rede electrica para transmitir
> dados. O PLC causa fortes interferencias noutro serviços sem voce se
> aperceber. Diga não ao PLC.
>
> Proteja o ambiente
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